Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.
They accept money from EU customers so, yes
Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#72> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applicatio…
I like the CMD+Q Chrome implementation on macOS and would like to see it everywhere, essentially acts as a confirmation since it will quit if you press again or your do a long press. See, Apple put @ on Q on some languages[0] and you are required to press OPTION+Q to type @ and quite often you end up closing the app when you are trying to type an e-mail address. It's particularly annoying in browsers when you acciden…
I'm Icelandic and a programmer. I work with US Ansi layout keyboards. Working with Icelandic ISO layout is horrible when programming. All the "programming" keys are strewn all over the keyboard and hidden under the option layer. I think they did this to make space for the special letters in the Icelandic language. On the other hand in the US Ansi layout the "programming" keys are close to the home row.
Couple of examples, but you can find more if you want to: {} is easily accessible on the US Ansi, but Icelandic ISO it's under option+7 and option+0. ; is right under your pinky on the home row on the US Ansi, but shift+, on the Icelandic ISO layout.
The @ is also on Q on the Icelandic keyboards. Which is absolutely insane, because quitting applications in macOS you do cmd+Q and on windows I think it is ctrl+Q. On windows you have to do alt-gr+Q to get the @ symbol. But on macOS you can do both option+Q or option+2. I use the option+2. I'm not pressing that Q with a modifier combo, unless I intend on quitting something.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#73I'm an EU citizen and support the GDPR. But it's only a question of time before the US will interpet these fines as an undeclared trade war and make up the legal framework to do retaliatory strikes against EU tech companies. Borders and tariffs will be the long-term future of the Internet.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#74So if I’m an American company and have no offices in Europe and ignore GDPR for my free customers, what happens? Will I get arrested by the Polizei when I land in Berlin? Will the US force me to pay these fines?
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#75> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applicatio…
It's hard to blame apple or blame microsoft for simply having a different convention, which they've long had, I remember struggling to use an iMac back in the day because nothing ever quit when I wanted it to, but I accept that their model is different. In Windows it's convention for the top right X to be "Quit Application" and equivalent to alt+f4. It can be useful to have X close to system tray, in which case they…
However, keeping an active voice session open with no window open is definitely outside the norm - most apps with audio chat that I know have to audio chat strictly tied to a window.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applicatio…
Importantly, Teams will leave a meeting if you exit the Meeting window. Keeping the meeting going in the background is honestly pretty crazy.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#77Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.
GDPR applies to all companies that provide services to EU residents.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alt+F4 kills the process.
Nope, Alt+F4 is the close window shortcut. This is even visible in the OS-controller Window Menu - hit Alt+Spacebar in any window of any app, and you'll see the Window menu appear, which will include an option for Close (the current window), showing that the shortcut for it is Alt+F4. This is even true for modal dialogs (if they are real Windows modal dialogs).
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#79So if I’m an American company and have no offices in Europe and ignore GDPR for my free customers, what happens? Will I get arrested by the Polizei when I land in Berlin? Will the US force me to pay these fines?
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this UI design? Wouldn't this fall under UX or just basic functionality? I press X, program close. If I want it minimized I press the minimize button.
"X" hasn't meant end the process for over 20 years. In 2022, it could very well be the better choice for most users to not end a voice call just because they clicked the "X" to get rid of the window. Just like what Skype, other Voip services, and most chat services have done forever. This ruling is a bit disappointing.