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Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by germinalphrase »

tootie wrote: post #43
dmix wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their main value prop is any sophisticated work requiring extensive pre-planning in group settings or in a physical environment like surgeries, architecture, and work training. There’s tons of complex jobs like this in the military, healthcare, high end niche manufacturing, etc. There’s also the sales aspect where you help customers visualize products like a car demo to executives. The barrier seems to be customizati…

I still just don't see what Magic leap is going to do in that space. If you just need to overlay real world visuals with metadata, you can do it with a consumer grade smart phone for the past 5 years. If you want immersive, then you want VR. The niches that require goggles are tiny.

AR won’t matter until shared experiences and body mods are real and in daylight.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

WaxProlix wrote: post #67
IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by dylan604 »

IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

Are you saying the enterprise model gives a better viewpoint than the base model, or that the pricing alone gives a better viewpoint into the viability of Magic Leap product(s)?

PS: that was rhetorical

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by solardev »

ericd wrote: post #39
muglug wrote: post #27

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> But we shouldn’t shame people for shooting for the moon and landing on earth Sure, but in this case they were telling the public that they'd reach the moon soon, even though they were just building a new sort of plane.

From what I've heard, their original device was pretty incredible, but large, and they weren't able to keep all the same benefits in the portable version. But that original version is what got everyone so incredibly pumped up.

Incredibly unlikely. If sizing was the only constraint, they could've easily showed a real demo of the bigger device.

They were just lying.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by dylan604 »

keyle wrote: post #58
IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

The dream of consumer AR is dying slowly. It's a disruptive tech that's gone into sleepyland. Look at stable diffusion as a comparison, blows everyone's mind every day for 30 days, moving at an incredible pace, and for free... Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues.

>Sure hardware, vs. software but still, we're in different leagues.

Interesting choice in the use of the comma. I know this comment leaves nothing towards the furtherment of the discussion, but it was just odd enough to make me have to stop. I know I typo/myspell, grammatically f'up, there/they're/their typo, all the time, so I'm not grammar pro myself, but just trying to see, if maybe, I can use the, comma, too.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by sockaddr »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #72
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

I have been really looking forward to this. It’s a shame that the video is so awful! Why would anybody go to a coffee shop or public park to put on a VR headset? What were they thinking???

Also watching him try to put that cup of coffee to his face was painful. You’d look like such a tool trying to press that cup against your headset. No wonder they cut that scene so quickly.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by dylan604 »

kortex wrote: post #55
cercatrova wrote: post #42

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It's interesting, the Cyberpunk style worlds were made in the 80s when Japan was still dominant, so people thought Japan would continue dominating. But that didn't quite turn out how we expected. So it's funny to see Japan still so prominently depicted in future settings, kanji on buildings and people with katana running around, but it's nowhere near like that in the real world.

They are still the 3rd largest economy in the world. Katanas would still be weird. Unless it's a mall ninja.

Does a mall ninja ride a Segway?

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

khazhoux wrote: post #50
dmix wrote: post #19

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Meh this could turn out to be a success story. The original founder had more experience in medical and enterprise sales. He wasn’t a B2C type of CEO and probably was surrounded by yes men and the adoring media who fed into his ego. They obviously over played their hand and they were given tons of hype and probably felt the pressure. Not an excuse obviously. But we shouldn’t shame people for shooting for the moon and…

You are giving the CEO way too much credit . I followed the story from the beginning, and from the beginning it was clear he was lying through his teeth about what the technology was capable of. With his "my amazing technology is so advanced, I can't even secretly tell you how secretly we are secretly keeping the technology advances secret." Pure bullshit, and I'm glad to see someone like that fail. Bullshitters erod…

I’m sorry to say it but “honest entrepreneurs” are just failed bullshitters. Entrepreneurism is attractive because it’s the closest thing to freedom under capitalism, and the closest thing to dictatorship.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by cycomanic »

I remember that back when they were all the rage (and got huge investments) I met an employee at a coffee shop at an optics conference I was attending (I didn't know who they were at the time). IIRC she had been a postdoc at some research lab until a while before. She obviously didn't talk about what they were doing exactly, but more about the surreal experience working for them after uni. They had just bought several ebeam writers (multimillion $ equipment used in lithography) without anyone really knowing what they would use it for.

It sounded a lot like they were just throwing lots of money at equipment for doing work on hype research topics (metamaterials was a big thing at the time) to see if it could solve some of their problems, but really without much thought on if it makes sense. She was talking about how it was cool to work for a place where there were absolutely no money constrains, but it also sounded a bit like "I am at a company but doing stuff which seems more blue sky research than at uni... Why?".

To me the current wave of quantum computing startups sound very similar.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by dylan604 »

tsol wrote: post #59
IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

When I was a kid, a really good pc(like an Alienware) was 3200. Now my phone is more powerful than most of those PCs from back then. I think you'll see continue to see prices fall over time until adoption takes off

To this day, you can't have the price of that PC subsidized or allowed for the price to be paid in installments with a 24 month contract like a phone.

What would happen to the desktop market if they offered up an infinite payment plan that allowed for annual trade-ins/upgrades like phones? We used to do that with leasing companies for data room equipment, but I never saw it for normal user computers (not that I'm well versed in all manners computer leasing).

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