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Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

Intermernet wrote: post #57
superchroma wrote: post #2

I'd rather see firms chuck some money to perhaps Blender or something to get a viable alternative developed than send angry letters to the featureless monolith that is Autodesk. They're the market leader. They don't care. They already have firms by the metaphorical balls with astronomical licensing fees and know people will pay because they set the standards across many industries. In architecture, anyway, the proble…

Autodesk have jumped the shark with their recent cloud pricing options. New users will be priced out of the software, and will use anything else other than the Autodesk family of products. This may take a generation, but Autodesk have made a conscious decision to be less and less relevant over the next decade or so. Adobe are on the same path, but not quite so aggressively. They may still see the writing on the wall…

Yeah, I don't understand how these firms (especially Adobe) are so completely oblivious to what actually made them successful.

One of the main reasons Photoshop and Illustrator became widely used, is that every eleven-year-old with an interest in design or photo editing would torrent these products and learn the workflows inside out.

Autodesk seems to have somewhat figured this out, with Fusion360 having a free hobbyist license for instance.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by egypturnash »

narrator wrote: post #10

Adobe should come up with a competitor. QuarkXpress abused its customers badly with high license fees and hardware dongles and all sorts of stuff like that. When Adobe came out with InDesign, everyone switched and Quark lost its dominant position. Same thing happened to Microsoft in Mobile. People were so sick of their monopolistic behavior that they lost totally to Apple and Google when they came out with a competit…

This is a wish just waiting to be granted by a creepy mummified monkey’s paw if I ever heard one.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by zarzavat »

seydor wrote: post #40
lionkor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its PHP

It's everything BUT php. The mysql server on the site is too slow and crashed, the HTTP server somehow broke and served source code. PHP is the only thing that works there, and it tells you that mysql connection is not available.

The HTTP server is serving source code because of the braindead system of HTTP routing that PHP encouraged (because it's "easy") whereby scripts are stored in the root path amongst resources, and the file system is used for routing. In other languages the HTTP server doesn't even know where the source code is.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by rjh29 »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #71
Intermernet wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Autodesk have jumped the shark with their recent cloud pricing options. New users will be priced out of the software, and will use anything else other than the Autodesk family of products. This may take a generation, but Autodesk have made a conscious decision to be less and less relevant over the next decade or so. Adobe are on the same path, but not quite so aggressively. They may still see the writing on the wall…

Yeah, I don't understand how these firms (especially Adobe) are so completely oblivious to what actually made them successful. One of the main reasons Photoshop and Illustrator became widely used, is that every eleven-year-old with an interest in design or photo editing would torrent these products and learn the workflows inside out. Autodesk seems to have somewhat figured this out, with Fusion360 having a free hobby…

The subscription model for Adobe actually makes photoshop more affordable for students than before, though. (Even if they pay more in the end)

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by analog31 »

Aperocky wrote: post #68
S0und wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Autodesk or simply get acquired/assimilated This is not even a question, there is no room to wonder. Autodesk WILL buy and KILL whatever software that threatens its own. Even in 2008, they just bought and killed one of their competitor in VFX, Softimage. Assuring everyone they wont kill it. This was a big deal. And ofc they killed it, basically telling their customers to go learn Max or Maya.

What happens if an open source alternative starts to exist? You can't buy open source.

I think it's an immense hurdle. Sweating all of the tiny details, and encoding arcane domain knowledge, requires a staggering amount of labor.

Also, the users don't care. I work with a lot of engineers. Outside of actual programmers, most people are ambivalent about open source, or still even think the whole idea is weird.

They're not paying for it themselves. If their employer, and competing employers, are willing to pay for it, they're happy. Also, it creates an entry barrier that protects their value.

Changing to a different app is a hardship -- they even hate it when a new version gets installed and breaks all of their work flows, many of which are carefully documented. The top feature request of all institutional software users is: "Please don't change anything."

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by yashap »

sgjohnson wrote: post #36
taspeotis wrote: post #32

It's serving me source code... public function build_time_query( $column, $compare, $hour = null, $minute = null, $second = null ) { global $wpdb; // Have to have at least one. if ( ! isset( $hour ) && ! isset( $minute ) && ! isset( $second ) ) { return false; } What sort of failure mode causes a website to just dump the backend source? Oh it's PHP...

It has got nothing to do with PHP whatsoever...

Huh? This particular bug has everything to do with PHP. PHP is reasonably unique in the model of “treat everything like a standard webserver serving up files from the filesystem, except they’re PHP scripts/templates that get evaluated to produce content, vs a true static file.” But misconfigure your web server, and it’ll just serve up the source code instead. This wouldn’t happen in almost any other language.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by dghlsakjg »

rjh29 wrote: post #75
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't understand how these firms (especially Adobe) are so completely oblivious to what actually made them successful. One of the main reasons Photoshop and Illustrator became widely used, is that every eleven-year-old with an interest in design or photo editing would torrent these products and learn the workflows inside out. Autodesk seems to have somewhat figured this out, with Fusion360 having a free hobby…

The subscription model for Adobe actually makes photoshop more affordable for students than before, though. (Even if they pay more in the end)

1. Students didn’t upgrade every version. So the cost was amortized over many years.

2. The above point is moot because I, and every student I knew, used a school copy on a lab computer or… obtained a copy without paying

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by killSp4m »

I for one would love it if industry that produces real things collaborated to produce their own best of breed tooling rather than let SV aimlessly generate endless supply of half assed crap to capture worker agency as part of its game to control the economy.

Industrial designs from buildings to cars, heavy equipment, and manufacturing equipment, could chip in enough to effectively end Autodesk.

Movie studios could ruin Adobe.

My friends in chip business are giving me hope; more and more logic is being embedded in chips, requiring less and less software to cover up usability and bugs in hardware.

I look forward to the day pretentious cut-n-paste engineering (software) is relegated to an eccentric hobby.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Post by NegativeLatency »

riedel wrote: post #8
superchroma wrote: post #2

I'd rather see firms chuck some money to perhaps Blender or something to get a viable alternative developed than send angry letters to the featureless monolith that is Autodesk. They're the market leader. They don't care. They already have firms by the metaphorical balls with astronomical licensing fees and know people will pay because they set the standards across many industries. In architecture, anyway, the proble…

Supporting FreeCAD [1] would be IMHO the way to go as they already provide both interfaces to BIM [2] and Blender [3]. Would be great if there were more architects or structural engineering companies that invest in open source. Maybe then universities would follow instead on building on education licenses that after graduation become very expensive. [1] https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Donate [2] https://wiki.freecadweb.o…

Have you actually used free cad for professional work?
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