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Google’s caste-bias problem

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Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#71

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

If you haven't experienced something, and think someone else claiming that they experienced it is stupid, I really don't know who is stupid.

If person A slaps person B and person C goes "I didn't experience anything. There are no slaps in this company", does that sound reasonable?

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#72

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

You don't have to put up with it. Lots of great companies great out there that create a safe space for normal adults like you and I.

Vote with your feet and leave.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#73

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

A friend once showed me the internal Google meme page and it was so safe and PG that it was unintentionally funny as hell in how lame it was. But I understand it has to be this way in any large company

Just like I can't blast my music tastes on others, not everyone should be subjected to insane Eric Andre humor

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#74

I always find it funny how there are massive east asian only groups in all major corporate entities. This is not diversity, this is racism. Nice work FANG.

and they get there through working their ass off but that is totally off topic as far as what op was asking.

Which is what every entrenched group of racists claims is the reason for their control over an entity. The 'other' is lazy and we're hard workers. Nope, no bigotry involved, just our innate superiority over other groups.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#75
fact is we live in a tiered society. no matter how many times we repeat to ourselves that "we are all equal" (before the law).

as I see it, such phrases are a goal, an intention, more than they are a reality.

we need to keep working perpetually in pursuit of such an ideal goal, but just pretending we do not live in a caste (or tiered) society does not really do anything to achieve this goal.

this is the my point: to pretend that tiers (or castes) do not exist does not move us any closer to the stated ideal goal.

the more direct action I can think of is to dissasociate what somebody does to earn a living from their social status.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like you are describing the norm. The prime advice for everyone is networking, networking, networking, isn’t it? And it’s not what you know, but who you know. Going to the right schools to be able to make the right friends, etc.

No I'm saying a group of relatives from India methodically only hire eachother and use vicious politics to climb the ladder in american corporations. I watched it occur over a decade and still see the hiring updates on LinkedIn, "I am proud to announce we have hired XYZ from other big corp as the new head of data and governance."

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Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#77

One of the best features of homesourcing, one that everybody is thinking about but nobody is discussing, is that it completely sidesteps the need to arrive at a universal, global workplace monoculture. People can be truly diverse, including in ways that other people find offensive, objectionable, or unacceptable, when they're not forced to share the same physical spaces. The question of how google should solve the co…

But supposedly the problem also exists in the United States because many people who work in America come from India.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#78
post #2

Maybe i'm being ignorant, but why don't you just not work for the company that has few or no Indians? Because other nations of course don't know about which last name means which caste or would ever care about it, you won't be a subject for discrimination. And besides, these places will probably pay better anyway.

Because they are American citizens and deserve the same opportunities as everyone.

Because they are employees of American companies and they deserve the same opportunities as every other employee.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#79

(Outside looking in perspective. I am not Indian.) When I worked as a software engineer are capital one earlier in my career, thus was a very noticeable trend. You had entire teams/groups (and to some extent geographical regions given the way the capital one workforce was split between Richmond Virginia, McLean Virginia, and NYC) where particular castes grouped together. It became particularly acute when you took int…

I wonder if anti-bias training for Indian hiring managers have would any effect? Or would taking the hiring of Indians need to be made by non-Indians in order to avoid this bias?

Additionally, there is some selection-bias as well. In other words, do we measure against the Indian pop in the US (or Canada, etc) or against the proportions in India itself and when doing so raw numbers, or number of graduates or graduates from the IITs?

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#80
Friendly reminder that white people are shot by cops at a very high rate and yes, all lives do matter.

Regardless of what the New Yorker thinks.

Edit: Bring in the downvotes, I welcome them. It’s clear to me that white lives don’t matter to the HN crowd, but that doesn’t surprise me at all considering the main people who come here are white people from California who grew up in completely white society and now have a savior complex. That’s an American caste system nobody wants to talk about right there, the way coastal whites treat everyone else.

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