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Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by bergie »

Geee wrote: post #22
daliusd wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it looks like people at Nokia have tried really hard to release N9 even if it has problems. It is far from polished and I have hit some critical functionality that has API but is not working on Harmattan (most probably it works on Symbian). As well there are some functions that do not work from UI. I have reported bugs but that's the best I could do (maybe I can fix some of them). Overall I love how MeeGo Harmat…

The first update is almost released with 3500+ improvements. The current software was ready in spring already and they have been working on the first update since. Also, I think the software on N950 is somewhat older/different release. Meltemi is supposed to have different kernel, and it's really targeted at very low-end, in feature phone markets. Although, very low-end is 1Ghz in a couple of years.

N950 got the software version from N9 (I believe, though maybe there are hardware-specific differences) yesterday OTA

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by astrodust »

recoiledsnake wrote: post #56
patrickgzill wrote: post #10

Shades of the incompetent Rick Belluzzo who destroyed SGI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Belluzzo

How would he be incompetent if he was a MS mole? Sounds like he was pretty competent if he succeeded? That Wiki article seems to be a hit job. A few references: http://www.msboycott.com/news/00_01_17.shtml http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=rick+belluzzo+%2... And we have someone on HN here quoting the Urban dictionary reference. How long does it take to make a new entry for anyone or anything yourself? Didn't k…

He trashed HP, SGI, and tanked Quantum? That's an impressive resume.

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by astrodust »

ttrashh wrote: post #70
hristov wrote: post #67

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So for that reason they decided to go into the rich Windows Mobile ecosystem? What kind of installed base is there for Windows Mobile nowadays? 5.7% and falling steadily. Sorry but if the richness of the ecosystem is the main reason for change, then the obvious answer is Android.

Multiple reasons imho: They got a great deal from Microsoft that Google wasn't willing to match, the OS is beautiful, plenty of existing Xaml developers, great platform + language and better tooling than Android or iOS.

Everyone is under the impression that the waters are poisoned or they'd be flocking to the platform.

XNA is actually a decent toolkit, and the Visual Studio environment is way better than the Android Eclipse mish-mash.

What's preventing uptake is a complete lack of understanding in their market, an inability to take down even weak competition like RIM, and no clue how to leverage their success from the 360 on to a phone.

If they'd just called it the Xbox Phone it would've sold ten times better.

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by majorlazer »

rbanffy wrote: post #65
robert_nsu wrote: post #48

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I was under the impression that they wanted to transition to Windows Phone or Android. Anything to help them become/stay competitive in the mobile space.

That would mean a transition to Android, because WP7 has proven not very competitive. In fact, Microsoft is giving them away for free at their stores.

In fact, Microsoft is giving them away for free at their stores.

Do you have any sources for that?

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by YourAnMoran »

boundhund wrote: post #64

Note: the parking lot was probably deserted because there is currently an industry-wide labour union dispute that prohibits working overtime.

Not to mention that during the past six months, a significant amount of Nokia's engineers have either been laid off or found new employers on their own. It was a catchy way to begin the article but nothing more.

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by moondowner »

You can argue that Elop isn't a mole, but putting such neglect on the N9 is a true evidence that they don't want any platform built at Nokia (Symbian, MeeGo) to succeed.

Here's what the editor of GSMArena wrote in a recent post:

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-review-659.php

"Not shown much love by its own maker, the Nokia N9 is embraced by the consumers. You won’t see Stephen Elop getting all too fired up about MeeGo and spending hours explaining how it’s the best thing since Santa, sauna and the N95. But if you care to look, you'll notice thousands of people hitting our site each day to just check out the Nokia N9."

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by rbanffy »

majorlazer wrote: post #75
rbanffy wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would mean a transition to Android, because WP7 has proven not very competitive. In fact, Microsoft is giving them away for free at their stores.

In fact, Microsoft is giving them away for free at their stores. Do you have any sources for that?

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/10/19/microsoft-dishing...

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by bergie »

bergie wrote: post #71
Geee wrote: post #22

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The first update is almost released with 3500+ improvements. The current software was ready in spring already and they have been working on the first update since. Also, I think the software on N950 is somewhat older/different release. Meltemi is supposed to have different kernel, and it's really targeted at very low-end, in feature phone markets. Although, very low-end is 1Ghz in a couple of years.

N950 got the software version from N9 (I believe, though maybe there are hardware-specific differences) yesterday OTA

Release notes: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/Nokia_N950_...

Re: Is Nokia's CEO a Microsoft mole?

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Post by hetman »

nl wrote: post #55
zhwang wrote: post #34

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Well actually, the N9's been promoted a bit around Australia, as far as I can see. I've been seeing ads for it on public transport, both in buses and at major train stations. Makes me wonder why they'd be bothering with throwing these advertising dollars around if the N9 ecosystem is pretty much doomed anyway.

Makes me wonder why they'd be bothering with throwing these advertising dollars around if the N9 ecosystem is pretty much doomed anyway. They need to sell high-end phones to try to prop-up their revenue until the Windows phones are ready. It's pretty consumer-hostile, though.

Except why only push it in their smaller markets?
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