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Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.
Microsoft actually offers Windows 10 for free, with some cosmetic restrictions until you pay for the license.
The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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We’re actively building the infrastructure to launch in additional countries. It’s a challenging logistical environment at the moment, but we very much built and certified the product to be broadly available, and we are reminded of the interest in that daily!
I'd like to give a huge shout out to nrp, founder of Framework, for being super active on the Framework community forum, here on HN and I assume in 10 other places, answering questions, helping with debugging issues down to nitty gritty technical details. For a founder, this is very unusual because there is an entire business to take care of and yet he finds time for all the above as well. Thanks Nirav.
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
#73There are no fanless CPUs among the options, and the consumptions are not explicit. The only battery mentioned is 55Wh. CPUs with the lowest consumption are (sorry for the obvious points) -- battery efficient, allow for more work per charge; -- silent, requiring no fan; -- often cheaper; -- still quite fast for normal use. So, I would not do without...
CPUs with higher power consumption are: - Irrelevant regarding battery life because I can get from my office to the conference room to my shop to my home and back to my office long before the battery dies even with hamstrung sleep states in modern processors; everywhere I work it's plugged in to a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and wall socket and I can't understand why you would use it otherwise. - Still quiet, because t…
> I can't understand why you would use it otherwise
Clearly you don't. But some do use it otherwise. There are no power outlets from where I am writing these very words.
> the large heatsink is able to cool it while doing little work
So the fans are normally off? Are they on only after minutes of heavy load?
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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Those are the exact pirated copies I was referring to. Or do you really believe that a copy that costs 3 euro can be legit ?
It’s ‘possible’ maybe unlikely at 3€ However there is a license recycling market that buy up unused or reassignable licenses from say software shops that have gone under and still have 100 visual studio licenses etc
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There is no need to pirate windows anymore, there are tons of entirely legit windows 10 pro licenses for sale at <3€.
Those are the exact pirated copies I was referring to. Or do you really believe that a copy that costs 3 euro can be legit ?
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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>First of all, computers with Windows aren't any more expensive than the same model with no OS or Linux. That's not what Framework's website is telling me. It looks like getting it with Windows costs up to $199 more
Strange considering other OEMs bundle it for the same cost as Linux. Framework's loss or they just don't consider it important?
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.
Doubt it. First of all, computers with Windows aren't any more expensive than the same model with no OS or Linux. The Framework is niche hardware and honestly, it's doubtful non-developers would ever hear about it. Odds are it's something Linux users are seeking out.
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
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Microsoft actually offers Windows 10 for free, with some cosmetic restrictions until you pay for the license.
Could you please provide information we're I can get that free of Windows?
To the question: I have a watermark in the corner of my screen saying I need to activate, and I am unable to change my desktop background and some other things. Besides that, the OS is functioning normally.
Re: The Framework Laptop Is Great for a Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Machines ordered without Windows won't necessarily end up running Linux. Many of them could end up running pirated Windows.
Doubt it. First of all, computers with Windows aren't any more expensive than the same model with no OS or Linux. The Framework is niche hardware and honestly, it's doubtful non-developers would ever hear about it. Odds are it's something Linux users are seeking out.