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Any Telegram users here? I've only ever heard it used when talking about batshit American cults. Not exactly a target audience i want to reach.
Active user here. There are some great channels related to my hobbies, it has proper desktop version etc.
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> They tried to stay away from fiat by launching TRON but that got shut down, and now they're asking for money in euros. TON. Really not sure why the ended up shutting it down, but I wonder why they would not go directly with Bitcoin on Lightning instead of reinventing the wheel.
> Really not sure why the ended up shutting it down They were sued by the SEC: https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-146
Well I guess I won't be seeing any Taco Bell or LSD ads there: > Ads must not promote psychoactive substances, alcoholic beverages, tobacco products or fast food.
I get why you don't want to have ads for stuff like drugs, alcohol and tobacco. But fast food?
Restaurants. Restaurants offer the slowest and least efficient way to eat. Cooking at home allows for healthier diets and more control over ingredients.[1]
[1] Durov's message on his 37th birthday
Any Telegram users here? I've only ever heard it used when talking about batshit American cults. Not exactly a target audience i want to reach.
HNers: what do you use telegram such that ads would be intrusive?
However, nearly all these big channels have some kind of ads already. As long as they don't spam their new ads, my users likely won't find it intrusive at all
Here's hoping there will be a way to pay for no ads. But a question to HN: why have we not seen a mass-market adoption of a P2P, non-centralised messaging system that requires no external services to work? Mesh and other sorts of networks are cumbersome and have not reached mass-market adoption, so what (technically) is stopping a true E2E P2P platform?
There's probably someone thinking of doing this on some blockchain of sort. In a way, you'd literally pay per use... !
I hope this works for telegram! They were going to need to launch ads at some point and this transparent plan to get started seems like it considered the user base. It’s become my favorite messaging app and I enjoy the pace of innovation. I get it’s not end to end encrypted but that’s not what I am asking for with telegram - just a decent messaging app that makes it easy to remain anonymous (not sharing phone number)…
Even E2E encryption is supported via the Secret Chat feature!
Telegram is pretty good.
Telegram's communities are extremely lucrative Whether you created entire country dividing conspiracies just to sell some Q-labeled coffee mugs to the followers, or promoting your next crypto service, Telegram is there Its pretty much the best
It seems like a much more prolific version of Discord, where the focus is clearly on large groups, and it handles this surprisingly well. I’m not sure why people used to draw comparisons with Signal, to be honest, given that anecdotally virtually no one uses Telegram with E2EE, and its implementation of it is remarkably crippled.
I also don't have exact numbers but private chats are heavily used in some parts of telegram (mainly the grey or black markets)
Any Telegram users here? I've only ever heard it used when talking about batshit American cults. Not exactly a target audience i want to reach.
But yes, recently nutcases have taken to the platform since there is no big tech corp behind it to moderate the platform. They do delete illegal groups and spam, but if it’s legal and not causing disruption to other users, it’s almost certainly not getting deleted.
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Signal is similarly backrolled by wealthy benefactors from Whatsapp, so this "benevolence" is not unique. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be suspicious though, because Signal is a cautionary tale already (MobileCoin debacle and closed source server code).
Telegram has much higher infrastructure costs due to their "unlimited size uploads", and channels/groups being non-e2ee = everything is stored forever. Signal could run on benevolence. Telegram's debts were at 770M USD earlier this year. ( https://archive.md/mGtgp )
Telegram isn't really just a messenger, it's an anti-censorship system.
In fact, Telegram's burn rate would have to increase by roughly 3,000 to 5,000% for it to even make a yearly dent in his fortune, assuming he's invested in any kind of reasonable mix of assets.