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The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Is not using the shipping address for any other reason than shipping an order really that much more effort? Sure, protecting that information is more effort, but you should be doing that already, right? not just from a GDPR perspective but a business perspective too - if a competitor can get a list of all your clients and send them brochures with 10% discount on your prices, you'll close down pretty quick.

Why do you have the list? Ideally, you purge their information after the order is delivered.

I agree all systems should have better support for autocompletion so that users configure address only once for device, not for each service. Not only is this more private, it is also more convenient. Alas, until support is in place, remembering address is significantly more convenient for users.

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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I don't see how the entire FLoC concept can succeed. There is zero incentive for Chromium forks, let alone any other browser vendor, to implement/leave-in this technology. For other browser vendors, it is zero-effort to not support it. For Chromium forks, implementing it is zero effort but also comes with the same negative gain it would have for other vendors (that end-users are blind to). Unless you consider "more r…

>There is zero incentive for Chromium forks, let alone any other browser vendor, to implement/leave-in this technology.

Chrome has a 60-70% market share on its own. Most people don’t even know the difference between “the internet” “the www” and “chrome” So, there is zero incentive for the 30% of non-chrome browsers, but most of the people who don’t use adblockers anyway will be sucked into this.

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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The article links to FLoC[0] but the site gives me a 404. I used Google, a popular web search engine, to discover what FLoC stands for[1]. > Federated Learning of Cohorts > a new way to make your browser do the profiling that third-party trackers used to do themselves: in this case, boiling down your recent browsing activity into a behavioral label, and then sharing it with websites and advertisers [0] https://blog.g…

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you really need to explain what Google (Search) is?

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Mozilla seems to manage.

Mozilla is largely funded by Google. It's advertisement turtles all the way down.

Google is buying service (traffic) from Mozilla. It is not a donation.

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Mozilla is largely funded by Google. It's advertisement turtles all the way down.

Google is buying service (traffic) from Mozilla. It is not a donation.

That doesn't change the fact that if Google stopped selling their ads, Mozilla would have to stop paying their developers.

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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"Please switch to a browser that supports FLoC to view this page." [Links to Chrome, etc.] "This website requires a browser that supports FLoC. Please install one of the folllowing compatible browsers: " [Links for Chrome, etc.] "We've detected you are using a browser that does not support FLoC. Please update your browser to use this website." [Links to Chrome, etc.] "Your browser is outdated! Please upgrade." [Links…

Nah, tbh i dont even add adblocker-blockers. I think many publishers (most, i would say) are disgruntled with the way google totally dominated the market, and we'd rather stop feeding their monopoly this time. I added a referral link to brave browser on all my sites instead.

anecdotally i rarely see adblocker-blockers anymore

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Anyone using Vivaldi full-time? As a Firefox user, I find I have to install a number of third-party extensions to get some basic functionality that Vivaldi has out of the box (ad-blocking, note taking). Anyone made the switch, and, if so, can you share your experience?

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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Google needs to be split up, plain and simple. They are the most dangerous company in America

Splitting is not the solution to anything. Tell how splitting will solve anything ?? Let chinese companies or Apple or Microsoft buy up everything ???

Presumably splitting up the company would also involve restrictions about other large tech companies gobbling up the resulting Google-chunks. Anti-trust law is a thing that the US could enforce if they so chose.

Re: The Vivaldi browser will not support Google’s FLoC

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"Please switch to a browser that supports FLoC to view this page." [Links to Chrome, etc.] "This website requires a browser that supports FLoC. Please install one of the folllowing compatible browsers: " [Links for Chrome, etc.] "We've detected you are using a browser that does not support FLoC. Please update your browser to use this website." [Links to Chrome, etc.] "Your browser is outdated! Please upgrade." [Links…

Is FLoC built in a way where you couldn't just feed websites fake data?

Sure, but you would have to be careful with that though, if you use any Google services they might ban your account with no recourse.
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