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India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
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#72Stupid people making laws for the things that they don't fully understands.
Your argument will hold true if social media companies act as a platform and don't censor or intervene. In reality they take sides and push their agenda so this is bound to happen. Companies coming together to de-platform Trump and Twitter CEO admitting that twitter employees are left leaning are very good examples of why this would happen.
We saw what happens when employees are right leaning in the US. Their CEO gets kicked out and has his stock options stripped.
In the US if you have a non left leaning company that’s a bad thing because in the US the center is so far right that the majority of left leaning people look wildly right wing from a European perspective (which is where the right left view of politics comes from), and the majority of the people on the right are either delusional or scamming.
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#73Narendra Modi is a con-man who chose politics as career to make money; He doesn't have any credible Education/Qualifications other than Bigotry/Narcissism;
And Modi is privy/proxy to Pyramid schemes run by Ambani/Adani;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots
Continued presence of Narendra Modi will break India
https://www.quora.com/Should-only-Hindus-be-elected-to-publi...
"Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first" --Ronald Reagan (b. 1911)
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who understands Hindi, yeah I have to concur it's a authoritarian and stupid law. It will only be selectively enforced and seeing the track record of this regime, it will be used to suppress dissent.
As someone who understands English as well, yeah, I have to concur that social media giants like Twitter have gotten more powerful than necessary. The law is just right, and at the right time, nothing stupid about it.
Except the law does nothing to restrict social media companies and everything to restrict people on social media.
Someone upstream made a ridiculous comparison to Donald Trump, whose Twitter was shut down because he had just incited violence.
Well that was the extent of what was or could be done to him.
With this law, and the way the current Indian government acts, your Twitter shutting down would be the least of your worries. The government would send its goons in uniform to arrest you, probably illegally (the way the 20 year old activist was illegally arrested, then illegally transported to a different state by the police so she could be denied bail in a friendlier jurisdiction), denied bail for months at end, unless they are the lucky few whose bail application reaches a higher court, which hasn’t been as ridiculous as the lower courts yet, beaten up, have the internet cut off, etc.
The current Indian government deserves absolutely no benefit of doubt because they continue to enact anti democratic measures, while destroying the economy, even though they were lectured solely on promises of improving the economy (their destruction of the economy began well before the pandemic...Dec 2016 to be precise...just look at a GDP growth chart and it peaks in Dec 2016 and makes an abrupt turn going from increasing growth to decreasing growth right then. Anyone with a passing knowledge of India knows which disastrous, and completely politically motivated decision ruined the futures of hundreds of millions of people).
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#75Key points from the article 1. Traceability of Encrypted Content 2. Harsh Content Take Down and Data Sharing Timelines 3. User Directed Take Downs of Non-Consensual Sexually Explicit Content and Morphed/Impersonated Content 4. Social Media User Verification 5. Automated Filtering 6. Digital Media Regulation Except point 3. Read each sentence with "Do not do" and see if it makes sense for internet.
Any pointers to the wording of the law itself? I cant appear to find it on a govt website yet.
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#76Please ignore the trolls, ramblings, and especially the newly created accounts. The current ruling party in India has an IT cell that tries to shape opinions online irrespective of the platform.
But isnt ignoring opinions of people who may have elected them in the first place a bit strange ?
You can call them bot or paid influencers if you want, but they may double down next elections :D
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#77There is an odd trend in pieces submitted about india that spawns new accounts in support of whatever it is the india government is doing. I'm in the west so probably better to updoot someone from india that has better insight. This is just my observation. If what mozilla is saying is true this is a very obvious power grab that only applies to law abiding people. Internet protocols don't care about laws, you can try…
Hi... glad you found that. I have personally faced the full brunt of Indian governments maniacal control over the internet. Since 5 August 2019 till February 2020 I had 0 internet. Then after that, only "whitelisted" websites of around 300. That number was gradually increased. High speed mobile internet was only started like last month so from March 2020 till say February 2021, around 8 million people had to endure 2…
Getting SIM cards for cash in India.
Been in the situation once when I was transiting through India. Getting SIM card in India as a non-resident is a huge pain
Back then, there were always people hanging around airports selling SIM cards for cash.
Wholesale, data-only M2M cards are also said to be quite easy to get, with many resellers.
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#78Only the largest social media companies will be able to comply with these laws. Assuming the summary isn't incorrect, these requirements are incredibly difficult to implement for small companies. Automated Filtering, Social Media User Verification, Traceability of Encrypted Content are all complex on both a technical & practical level. As I understand, setting up a basic mastodon instance or even just an IRC server c…
> So now you have to wait 180 days for your information to really be removed. So much for privacy. It's also a bit weird in that it is exactly 180 days and not up to or at least which makes it a bit confusing in what its goal is. "Up to 180 days" can result in data being deleted sooner. If data retention is a cost centre rather than a profit centre, the data will be deleted immediately. "At least 180 days" can result…
Seems like that would be interpreted as "at least" to me. Where do they say it must be deleted after the 180 days?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Champions of free expression wants to grant more power to Jack and his cohort than to the democratically elected Government because Governments are corrupt but Jack is not. How Ironic?
India's government is only nominally democratic and rapidly falling in freedom parameters looked at from any perspective. They are charging climate activists with sedition, holding protestors without charge for months, increase in extrajudicial killings and rapidly falling Human Development Indicators.
Please cite your source for all these claims. I'm pretty sure I'm lagging behind in the news these days.
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#80People who see some good in this are naive, its no a blow to the social media giants, the big players can always afford to be an exception to regulation ....
They aren't naïve at all, you are naïve. India's decline in democracy index is not an accident.