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Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

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If you're a fan of Philip Glass but haven't explored the works of Steve Reich I highly recommend it

Reich is brilliant! “Come out” is a very affecting piece, and the history behind it is also quite interesting.

Also, judging from the name, OP is probably also a fan of Arvo Part. There is a moving “video etude” for the piece Healing of Arinushka that I would recommend if you’re feeling contemplative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7exvD2nJG8

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The label "avant-garde" is surprising to see used to describe Philip Glass's works. What performance were you attending?

Unrelated anecdote, but I once went to a 3 hour John Cage concert. Genuinely awful, and about as thought provoking as a piece of cardboard. That was avant-garde, apparently.

One should always be wary of going to a concert with music only by a single composer that one doesn't know. :P I try to check there's some variety on the programme, that way I can with high confidence expect to enjoy at least 5 minutes per hour (and so long as I get that I'm happy).

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#73

I discovered Philip Glass' music through the movie Koyaanisqatsi, which I heartily recommend. If you haven't seen it, go into it without expectations of what a movie is supposed to be like; it's weird.

IMHO Baraka and Samsara are much more realized versions of the idea behind Koyaanisqatsi.

Ron Fricke, the man behind Baraka and Samsara, was the director of photography (and writer, editor) for Koyaanisqatsi. I would keep in mind how novel Koyaanisqatsi was for its time, and that Baraka and Samsara are mere evolutions on a revolutionary film.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#74
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your goal with this comment to encourage people to give Berio, Feldman, Riley, and Reich a try, or is to try to convince others how much better at listening to music you are than them? For anyone else who likes Glass's piano work, you might like some pieces by Yann Tiersen or Erik Satie.

That's a strange dichotomy of choices. Another post in this thread backs up entirely my point that this is music to be played in the background, not thoroughly consumed and heard. [0] > I think to this day its great background music for programming work This article was nothing more than sponsored content for a contemporary artist who already has all of the success, publicity, and fandom he could ever need. By leveli…

Is your point that the music is bad because it can function as background music and doesn’t require active listening to enjoy? Or that the music is good but the listeners are bad as they play it in the background?

Would your opinion of his music be any different if you were alive when it came out? He is so influential that when you listen all you hear is a tired old style, which would never exist without him.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#75

If you're a fan of Philip Glass but haven't explored the works of Steve Reich I highly recommend it

Reich is brilliant! “Come out” is a very affecting piece, and the history behind it is also quite interesting. Also, judging from the name, OP is probably also a fan of Arvo Part. There is a moving “video etude” for the piece Healing of Arinushka that I would recommend if you’re feeling contemplative https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7exvD2nJG8

I was pleasantly surprised watching the tv show Devs when they made very effective use of "Come out"

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#76

I saw Glass at a performing arts center in my hometown. The PAC has a lot of season ticket holders, and Glass' music triggered an older attendee to march to the front of the auditorium and yell, "this isn't music". He was quickly ushered out by his wife, but Glass was noticeably smirking, and the whole thing really added to the avant garde vibe of the performance. Amazing concert BTW. One of my favorite artists.

The label "avant-garde" is surprising to see used to describe Philip Glass's works. What performance were you attending?

A performance at the University of Florida Performing Arts center here in Gainesville. This was back in the nineties.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#77
I love some of Glass's works, but others I find annoying. If you experiment on the cutting edge, you will have clunkers and duds, but also break ground every now and then. Or invent something half-finished that a future composer will improve upon.

Works that transitioned from Baroque to Classical are often considered clunky by modern standards, but that's because they were trying new things. If those pioneers didn't experiment, we wouldn't have Mozart and Beethoven. (I do enjoy Baroque though.)

Keep experimenting, Mr. Glass!

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's nice, but none of those references speak to the idea that Philip Glass is avant-garde. They simply (and inaccurately) apply this label to him, mainly because they're mainstream sources that do not actually cover Western art music.

What’s up with the gate keeping dude? Philip is an experimental musician, avant-garde has an experimental aspect to it, so people like calling him that. Why fuss over a word? And fwiw, things change, language is emergent, words acquire and lose meaning based on how people use it, not the other way around.

Personally, I'd be happy to be convinced that he's not an avant-garde composer. There might be some aspect to the term I'm not aware of. But "the word doesn't occur in the Wikipedia article" certainly isn't a very convincing point.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#79
When I was in high school, my friend got the cassette tape of the first part of Satyagraha stuck in his car stereo. For some reason rather than digging it out, we just went around blasting it for months. We were even singing along in overly dramatic fashion by the end of it.

Re: Philip Glass: My problem is people don’t believe I write symphonies (2017)

#80
What is the first minute of his symphony no. 11 if not minimal music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU_uBDujLAE

The theme that starts at 2:18 is just so typical for him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU_uBDujLAE&feature=youtu.be...). I do believe that he composes symphonies, they are just not so different from his other works.

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