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Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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Getting the app for 20-30% less money would seem to be desirable for the users.

Yeah that is fair. That assumes that the developer passes the cost on to the user and the alternative app stores take 0-10%. Here is my fear. I like most, not all, of the restrictions the App Store puts on apps. If there were alternative app stores developers might only provide their apps on those stores that don't provide the same user protections I value. This is why I would prefer Apple to resolve this without all…

Then don't use the alternative app stores.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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If I was apple I'd quickly exempt Epic and allow them to charge however they want, but not change the rules for anyone else. The number of other players that are large enough to have this kind of sway (so could try the same thing) must be pretty small, and going through the courts might hurt more.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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So the next IT revolution is turning kids against one of the biggest corporation in the world? Sounds good to me.

Weaponizing the firehose of vitriol of gamers is a wild approach to take. Let's see if it pays off for them.

It's going to be interesting. Epic might be able to reposition the image of Apple phones. Black and white design, dull colors, fragile... Old people phones.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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More than that. They had all this (the vid, the lawsuit, the social media campaign to mobilise their fans) ready to go, and baited Apple into kicking them off the App Store.

I don't know if the term 'baiting' can be applied to flagrantly violating TOS.

Pretty much the definition. They could either play Epic's game by booting them off or face potentially other apps breaking TOS in response. Epic was aiming for a certain reaction and they achieved it.

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Getting the app for 20-30% less money would seem to be desirable for the users.

There is no way companies are passing that 20-30% to the consumers.

itch.io allows developers to set the take, down to 0% if they want. Patreon allows users to adjust the take in exchange for less / more features. There's lots of alternative models that aren't a flat 30% fee.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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In case you haven't seen it (like I hadn't), this ad is a parody of the 1984 Apple Macintosh ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I

Oh man... That ad was huge... HUGE when it was released. It has its own wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_(advertisement)

Well hugeish ... originally it only played nationwide once (but in the superbowl)

However Epic's rework is very on point - Apple has become what it originally claimed it was rising up against

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I can't put my finger on its validity, but it all resonates the same to me: - Listening to billionaires arguing with each other about what society should be for the benefit of all since this recession started & - Trillions and billions of dollar companies battling it out as if they were the underdog in the public arena for the sympathy of us mere wage earners. The pervading sense I think from Left to Right is the sys…

I partly agree, but I think it's awesome that a huge company is taking on the fight instead of "negotiating" special fee adjustments like Amazon is doing in the backroom.

If the fight is successful, that will benefit everyone.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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The whole strategy here feels pretty unprecedented. Usually these kind of lawsuits happen in the background but Epic seems to be going full force with making it a public campaign. > Apple is blocking your ability to get the latest Fortnite updates! All players should have a choice in payment providers and save up to 20%. Apple wants to limit your payment choices! Join the fight against @AppStore on social with #FreeF…

I'm not a fan of what Apple is doing, and am happy to see it be tested in court. But, I'm not a fan of another multi-million dollar company making such a blatant appeal to emotion, as if Fortnite needs to be "freed", to the common person who has no concept of how nuanced the legalities of this entire thing are. I'll be happy when the theatrics are over with, and we can simply view the outcome of the legal precedent t…

That's correct, Epic's not altruistic here. But who else would be able to fight Apple's lawyers if not another multi-million dollar company?

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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Move over Netflix, this Apple vs Epic is the shit worth watching. Your move Apple.

Not really. It's basic contract law versus some small game company lawyers (compared to Apple's). Also, putting out parody ads and making fun of the whole thing will get you zero points in any court. Even if a court accepts this at all it will take years to finish. Meanwhile Epic is out of luck.

Epic isn't trying to win at judicial court with this ad; it's trying to win at the court of popular opinion here.
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