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Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by pgo »

shiftpgdn wrote: post #34
pgo wrote: post #30

My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (o…

Did your brother have any underlying health issues prior to contracting covid-19? Incl family history of any of these disorders, obesity, diabetes, etc?

No disorders, No family history of diseases except diabetes in a few older ones. All of us got over corona with just a little fever except him. Well we cant even say with confidence what is happening with him is due to corona, it could be two different diseases coinciding at the same time.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by ivalm »

hkeide wrote: post #62
ivalm wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember: over 40% cases are so mild The death rate alone is ~0.8%. There are another few percent that require hospitalization. The >99% of covid cases are not mild.

Are you talking about confirmed cases here?

I am talking about serological studies in Italy and South Korea. For confirmed cases death rates are 5%, but that’s because a bunch of people are positive and untested (many of them asymptomatic).

One thing to remember that at any one time there might be 99% not serious, but that includes a bunch of people who are recovering from serious or who will degrade to serious. Over the full cycle of the disease a much larger percentage will have a serious state. Close to 1% will die.

At the same time, being in prone position, getting steroids, etc really do seem to increase survival so maybe the death rate now is lower.

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Post by Consultant32452 »

edjrage wrote: post #70
Consultant32452 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Basic shit like wearing masks is now political. Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General lied to the public by telling them that masks don't help and would even be worse than not wearing a mask. The world's leading experts made it political, don't blame nobodies with no power for that. >You should take this seriously because people are actually dying. "People are actually dying" isn't t…

Could you stop with the "adult conversation" bullshit? This patronizing tone is not fit for Hacker News. Also it ironically makes you sound like a child who wants to show off how "adult-like" they are.

What is the "tone" of literally accusing posters of not caring if people are dying?

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Post by cs702 »

bananaface wrote: post #69
cs702 wrote: post #42

This story is possibly the very last thing I wanted to read today. Nonetheless, I read it and upvoted it because I like to think of myself as a reality-facing optimist, as opposed to a wishful-thinking optimist. (The landscape of history is littered with the dead bodies of wishful-thinking optimists; I don't want to be one of them.) After reading this story, along with recent evidence that a substantial portion of co…

Your conclusion about cardiac abnormalities is wrong, that's not what the study measured. They only looked at male patients aged 52-74, who were bad enough to be in hospital, and who had already been given an echocardiogram because there was an indicator, i.e. it's the subgroup that doctors deemed in need of a heart check because they were exhibiting symptoms like chest pain. The study indicates prevalence of abnorma…

Thanks. Corrected!

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Post by koheripbal »

AmVess wrote: post #40
pgo wrote: post #30

My family got corona positive last month, around the same time my brother started having some neurological issues. The doctors after seeing the MRI did not detect any issues. The same was confirmed by other radiologists and multiple other MRI scans over the month. Yet he faces these issues: nausea,headache,confusion,weakness,ataxia (unsteady walk) sensory changes, including numbness or tingling,trouble with vision (o…

I tested positive this week. My symptoms are flash headaches and nausea along with persistent ear ringing. No other flu symptoms are present. I've never had headaches like this before, both in feeling and duration. I've been careful since the end of February. Always wearing a mask, social distancing, hand washing with soap and disinfectant wipes. I've had limited exposure to other people except delivery people, my GF…

Are you on anti-coagulants?

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Post by rsynnott »

intotheabyss wrote: post #58
AmVess wrote: post #40

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I tested positive this week. My symptoms are flash headaches and nausea along with persistent ear ringing. No other flu symptoms are present. I've never had headaches like this before, both in feeling and duration. I've been careful since the end of February. Always wearing a mask, social distancing, hand washing with soap and disinfectant wipes. I've had limited exposure to other people except delivery people, my GF…

So where do you think you caught it? Seems strange that some people take all precautions and still end up getting it.

Some of the precautions (particularly masks) are primarily around not giving it to others, so you really need _other people_ to be taking the precautions, too.

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Post by phaemon »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #48
titzer wrote: post #33

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> It's useless to argue the numbers With very few exceptions, those "arguing the numbers" present a systematically biased and intentionally deceptive view that this virus is not dangerous and systematically hamper the collective action necessary to slow its spread. Instead of merely presenting a "balanced view", it's a rather irresponsible level of misinformation by...let's be frank...rather uninformed armchair epide…

>Basic shit like wearing masks is now political. Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General lied to the public by telling them that masks don't help and would even be worse than not wearing a mask. The world's leading experts made it political, don't blame nobodies with no power for that. >You should take this seriously because people are actually dying. "People are actually dying" isn't t…

> Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General

Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything.

> "People are actually dying" isn't the adult conversation.

It's the reality on the ground. Other countries are gradually opening up their "draconian measures" and are managing to contain the virus. If you can't do that, it's your own failure.

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Post by titzer »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #73
edjrage wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you stop with the "adult conversation" bullshit? This patronizing tone is not fit for Hacker News. Also it ironically makes you sound like a child who wants to show off how "adult-like" they are.

What is the "tone" of literally accusing posters of not caring if people are dying?

Appealing to your humanity.

Re: Covid-19 is causing a wide range of disorders in the nervous system

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Post by titzer »

engineer_22 wrote: post #59
Consultant32452 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Basic shit like wearing masks is now political. Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General lied to the public by telling them that masks don't help and would even be worse than not wearing a mask. The world's leading experts made it political, don't blame nobodies with no power for that. >You should take this seriously because people are actually dying. "People are actually dying" isn't t…

Bang on. Around the time the US Govt issued the pandemic warning I was scrambling to get the information I needed to make adequate decisions about the safety of the public works crew I was managing. The COO of a local hospital was on the public works committee so I asked her what to do regarding PPE. Her response was honest: "Try to get some, but if you don't already have it, you probably won't be able to get any." I…

Yeah, the entire US response has been completely confused and deeply incompetent. But I place blame at where the buck is supposed to stop. At the president's desk. Literally the first two words he ever used to describe the virus were "Democrat hoax" which are right in line with his basic approach to everything: politicize, divide, deny, and lie.

It wasn't some innocent misstep. He's sticking with the division and stoking hatred and reality denial....aww crap I am ranting.

Suffice is to say that CDC can be held culpable for some screwups but leadership from the President is something the country desperately needs.

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Post by Consultant32452 »

phaemon wrote: post #77
Consultant32452 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Basic shit like wearing masks is now political. Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General lied to the public by telling them that masks don't help and would even be worse than not wearing a mask. The world's leading experts made it political, don't blame nobodies with no power for that. >You should take this seriously because people are actually dying. "People are actually dying" isn't t…

> Masks became political the moment the CDC, WHO, and US Surgeon General Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything. > "People are actually dying" isn't the adult conversation. It's the reality on the ground. Other countries are gradually opening up their "draco…

>Ah, I see you take the Trumpian line of "it's everybody else's fault except me!". It became political in your country because the dozy muppet you elected as president can't actually deal with anything.

I'm pro-mask and anti-Trump. Let's be clear. The world's leading experts gave us mask advice that they knew was a lie and likely lead to the deaths of tens of thousands additional people. No one has been fired. No one has had to resign in disgrace. Yes, I'm more upset at them than I am at some rando at the grocery store who doesn't want to wear a mask.

>It's the reality on the ground. Other countries are gradually opening up their "draconian measures" and are managing to contain the virus. If you can't do that, it's your own failure.

If you don't have a definitive answer to what is the maximum time for how long you'd continue the draconian measures, you're not even in the conversation.

Our strategy from very early on was to flatten the curve so our hospitals weren't overrun. We succeeded, our hospitals have not been overrun. We're building herd immunity at a faster rate than other countries. It's totally fair to criticize that, but not without the context of the fact that other countries will eventually have to deal with this by building their own herd immunity. It appears they are choosing to spread that process out over a longer period of time. That's a very reasonable strategy also. Discussing different strategies is totally fair, but if all you can say is insult people by saying "You're not taking death seriously!" you're not participating in the conversation.

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