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Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by psychometry »

uwuhn wrote: post #44

My mouse progression since 2005 has been MX518 - G400S - G903. I used the G502 for a few days when it first came out, and couldn't stand it because it just felt...weird with my grip. It also made my hand hurt. I'm completely locked into Logitech since I just can't function without a free-scrolling scroll wheel, and they apparently have it patented. I tried some of their other newer mice without free-scrolling, and no…

I gave up on mice after a few years with Logitech ones, and went 100% trackpad. Their scroll wheel is always too far from where your finger ends, making you curl your middle finger back in order to use it.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Freaken »

uwuhn wrote: post #44

My mouse progression since 2005 has been MX518 - G400S - G903. I used the G502 for a few days when it first came out, and couldn't stand it because it just felt...weird with my grip. It also made my hand hurt. I'm completely locked into Logitech since I just can't function without a free-scrolling scroll wheel, and they apparently have it patented. I tried some of their other newer mice without free-scrolling, and no…

I still use 3 MX518s. One in my backpack, one at home and one at work. They’ve been used and abused for the past ~ 13 years and although they‘ve got some visible wear, they work as well as the day I bought them.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by m0xte »

lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

Yep. The Windows 10 software is dire. If I RDP into my desktop machine the mouse lights up like a damn Christmas tree and won’t stop until I physically unplug it.

It’s a cheap end G203 which I bought because it has a DPI switch on it so I can jump around easily when doing CAD stuff.

I have considered cracking it open and desoldering the LEDs.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

bboygravity wrote: post #20

Does anybody know of any MX Master 3 modding forums or other resources? The firmware and electronics in these things are fine, but these mice are one size fits none. In my case: way too small. I probably need one that's 2 times the size + preferably vertical. I was thinking of doing a mod where I convert an MX Master 3 to a much larger MX vertical type thing. Shouldn't be too hard, but if I can think of this someone…

Search for modding here. There is a lot of really interesting stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by mymindstorm »

whalesalad wrote: post #55
deanclatworthy wrote: post #7

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

The latest one makes my MacBook Pro emit an extremely annoying high pitched noise when moving. I think it’s due to the high refresh frequency of the mouse versus more traditional ones. It sounds like a squeaky wheel or a squealing (real, animal) mouse. Other mice do not cause this problem. I mask it out with noise canceling headphones but I’d love a nice mouse that doesn’t cause this behavior. I’ve tried ferrite loop…

You can turn down the polling rate of the mouse using the software.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by dimfeld »

tryptophan wrote: post #15

Downside of such complicated mice with fancy circuit boards is that you can have issues like my s2 had, where the thumb button got stuck. This somehow caused a software lock, rendering the rest of the mouse unoperational; a nice 90$ paperweight. I don't mistreat my electronics either, it was not dropped or anything like that. This sort of stuff should not happen on such an expensive mouse. Coincidentally it happened…

I had the same thing happen recently, and came across this Youtube video detailing a fix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFaLyoSQQo0.

Essentially, you open up the mouse and loosen the internal screws on the thumb button a little bit, which moves the board away from the rubber over the button and relieves whatever pressure is keeping it pressed. You need a screwdriver with a T5 Torx bit to open up some of the screws, but overall the procedure is pretty easy and my mouse has been working great ever since.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by gruez »

rofo1 wrote: post #35
deanclatworthy wrote: post #7

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

For MX518 lovers, I've got a strong recommendation for G400s. The shape is almost the same and it's amazing how durable it is. The cable issue is still there, just like in MX518, and eventually (I am guessing) that's the reason I'll have to switch to something else. I've been using both of them for years and years. Amazing.

>For MX518 lovers, I've got a strong recommendation for G400s.

but both are discontinued

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Rebelgecko »

2bitencryption wrote: post #56

Do they make high-quality mice like these for left-handed people? I'm always jealous by this type of mouse, while I'm stuck using my cheap sad ambidextrous Microsoft mouse.

Their ambi mice are decent. I use a G300S at work, and I think they have some fancier mice that are also ambi while having features like wireless charging and the toggle for smooth/ratcheted scrolling.

The only company I know of that makes an actually left handed mouse is Razer. Decent hardware, but if you're on a Mac their drivers are even worse than Logitech's. There's nothing worse than having your mouse stop working because the internet is down.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by type0 »

swozey wrote: post #27
deanclatworthy wrote: post #7

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

I had 3 of these mice over the years and each one eventually the cable would go bad/loose, I think including my G5, and I'm no fast twitch fps gamer. Looks like they changed he cable on this new one. Ironically I switched to the MX series (multiple mx2 and mx2s, home/work) and I absolutely love them apart from the problems I used to have where they'd stutter on every OSX machine I used them on. I haven't had that pro…

Are there any good mice with replaceable cable? I no longer buy keyboards without replaceable cable (usually mechanical), surely the same could be applied for mice, how would one combat obsolescence otherwise.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by lilyball »

rkho wrote: post #65
lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

I hated the Logitech driver, it's been a complete dumpster fire -- constantly disconnecting, disabling certain functionality, and just overall a pain to fight. Ended up switching to SteerMouse, the developer's been crazy responsive and even went out of the way to work on MX Master 3 compatibility + support Smart Zoom functionality when it wasn't even previously up for consideration.

I haven't heard about SteerMouse in over a decade. I didn't realize it was still around. I should check it out.
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