Is there any equivalent high quality preferred-choice-by-many keyboard?
Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
My Logitech G700s has a AA NiMH battery in an easily replaceable door, no need to open the mouse. The battery still charges over USB if you have the mouse wired, and switches to wireless when that's unplugged. I like it a lot, if you run the battery down you can just pop a new one in and put the dead one in the charger. But I assume the one they're using here gives them higher capacity, so it's a trade-off.
They're both excellent mice, I really wish they would combine the best features of both: - battery life of the mx master - scrollwheel of the mx master - multi device of the mx master - bluetooth of the mx master - gesture button of the mx master - extra buttons of the g700 - data-over-usb of the g700 - AA battery support of g700 - on-device memory of g700
I switched from a G700s to an Elecom XGM20DL due to the G700s's poor battery life and terrible software (the Logitech gaming mouse drivers, at least on Mac OS, are dramatically worse than the mainstream mouse drivers). Unfortunately the build quality is pretty average, not as nice as the G700s was and nowhere near the MX Master series. It also doesn't have a built-in battery charger.
I never liked the thumb button layout on the MX Master 1 and 2, but on the 3 it looks a lot better, so I might give one a try even though it doesn't have the index finger page up/down buttons.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#53I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality.
I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS:
1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which leaves it in the menubar.
2. I can't unmap buttons and have them act as generic HID mouse buttons. I can map buttons to mouse 1, 2, and 3, but I can't go past that. I can map buttons to various special functions, but it would be a hell of a lot more flexible if I could just have mouse 4 and mouse 5 mapped. For example, I can map the "sniper" button to Mission Control, but I can't change its behavior with keyboard modifiers, whereas if it was just Mouse 5 I could use the system configuration to map that to Mission Control and then use keyboard modifiers to change its behavior.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#54For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/
For MX518 lovers, I've got a strong recommendation for G400s. The shape is almost the same and it's amazing how durable it is. The cable issue is still there, just like in MX518, and eventually (I am guessing) that's the reason I'll have to switch to something else. I've been using both of them for years and years. Amazing.
Yes, this was my replacement mouse when I built a new computer and couldn't find another 518. It's a great wired mouse - this is one of those designs that just works.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#55For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/
The latest one makes my MacBook Pro emit an extremely annoying high pitched noise when moving. I think it’s due to the high refresh frequency of the mouse versus more traditional ones.
It sounds like a squeaky wheel or a squealing (real, animal) mouse.
Other mice do not cause this problem. I mask it out with noise canceling headphones but I’d love a nice mouse that doesn’t cause this behavior. I’ve tried ferrite loops but they do nothing.
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#56Do they make high-quality mice like these for left-handed people?
I'm always jealous by this type of mouse, while I'm stuck using my cheap sad ambidextrous Microsoft mouse.
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#58Regarding Logitech Mice, I have the Anywhere MX and the Anywhere MX 2S here. I rarely used the old AMX but still, I got a defective left button switch after about 5 years in which I used it probably less than 500 hours total. Changing the switch is needlessly cumbersome, you have to remove rubber pads and battery stickers (which can't really be removed without destroying them). But the AMX feels solid and the on/off…
The MX anywhere is not meant to compete with the MX/MX2S/MX3. The "Anywhere" is a portable mouse, hence the laser cover. The MX 2S and 3 are meant to be left on a desk.
No, I'm talking about Anywhere MX and Anywhere MX2, I lazily omitted the Anywhere in my comment. Sorry for the confusion, I edited the original comment.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#59I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…
Logitech software is a dumpster fire. For a while there it would start and go to 170-190% CPU and just burn until it was killed.
I share your experience and frustration.
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#60Logitech has top quality hardware, but their software is degrading rapidly. Why does Logitech need to update the mouse software every so often? Installing fresh Windows 10 on a new computer, a popup automatically appears on the bottom-right to download and install Logitech software - without installing anything. This is built-in ads for Windows essentially. Also, Logitech wants us to connect to the internet to create…
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