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Re: An American Black Site

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Post by hdfbdtbcdg »

anbop wrote: post #68
plorkyeran wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any reason to believe that the fear of prison should they fail to die has ever, or will ever, deter even a single person from carrying out a suicide mission.

The lack of deterrent effect doesn’t mean that society’s desire for punishment vanishes. If there was a treatment that could make Osama Bin Laden a perfectly normal accountant in Des Moines I would not advocate for it compared to a trial and execution.

C/f this vindictive attitude with how the Norwegians have treated Brivik. He has been gently and humanly turned into a joke when he could have been a martyr...

Re: An American Black Site

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Post by rtkwe »

threezero wrote: post #3

The author really glossed over the reasons for the communications ban imposed on the terrorist prisoner - multiple people he spoke with ended up committing terrorist acts. Seems like a good enough reason to completely cut him off. In addition, the author really stretches when she complains that they brought in a gallon of liquid to feed him. If you’ve tried to feed a prisoner multiple times and you know they’re going…

What anti-terrorist point is there in restricting his reading material? In what universe does 'Audacity of Hope' or any book pose a national security threat in the hands of a man who spends all but a few hours a day completely alone?

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Post by ionised »

iooi wrote: post #39
josefresco wrote: post #26

Setting aside this specific situation. Let's say you run a prison, and an inmate goes on a "hunger strike" for a reason that's important to them. What should the prison operators do? Force feed the inmate, negotiate, give into their demands, or let them die? Let's say you try to negotiate, but the inmate is making unreasonable demands or you are not willing to meet their demands, then what?

To everyone saying to let them die, then where is the punishment? Most terrorists would rather and, in fact, intend to die during their attacks. If you let them die, not only are you giving them what they want, but then there is no deterrent to carrying out suicide missions.

You don't have a deterrent to begin with.
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