Huawei won't be spying but will also limit US spying. so it is a no go. Currently there are 5 coountries USA, Russia, Israel and China playing the digital intelligence game with enough talent and companies. On your mobile phone only those countries have a window for spying.
Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying
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Except that for anyone who's not American, the US is a foreign country.
And who is not in NATO or other closely allied countryu
So?
NATO: over.
War is over. If you want it.
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There's a massive difference between foreign country spying on you and your own democratically elected government spying on you. Before you try to call US not democratic - don't. It is democratic. Especially when you compare to China. Of course, there's no perfect democracy and we can always work for more.
The grandparent don't say anywhere that the US is not democratic, it says that " It has toppled democratically elected governments and installed dictators" that it's empirically truth. The idea that, in the international arena, and for not USA citizens, the USA is preferable to China is, at least, naive and, probably, dangerous. As a neither USA nor Chinese citizen, none of those two have my best interest at heart. N…
And, eventually, get that sail boat.
Borders are thin and invisible. Don't be stopped by them.
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#74Huawei won't be spying but will also limit US spying. so it is a no go. Currently there are 5 coountries USA, Russia, Israel and China playing the digital intelligence game with enough talent and companies. On your mobile phone only those countries have a window for spying.
I don't think Russia is capable of spying on mobile phones. And have doubts about Israel too. How would they even get there?
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There's a massive difference between foreign country spying on you and your own democratically elected government spying on you. Before you try to call US not democratic - don't. It is democratic. Especially when you compare to China. Of course, there's no perfect democracy and we can always work for more.
Why is it better to be spied upon by a “democratic” country? Especially if that country has been known to start a dozen wars and topple numerous regimes in the last decade or so?
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I think the UK appears to have taken the pragmatic descision since Thatcher, that in anything serious these days it is either overrun or obliterated, so might as well buy the cheap stuff from our strategic rivals that will break down in an apocalypse and we can make some quick cash in the mean time selling off all the national technical base. edit - Has been going on since long before Thatcher, to be fair. There's an…
Not sure what sense to make of this: that in anything serious these days (World War III?) it is either overrun or obliterated ( would be either overrun or obliterated?) I tried clicking on your link to help me understand but it's to an hour-and-a-half long film (and not, I think, a documentary...)
yes
>I tried clicking on your link to help me understand but it's to an hour-and-a-half long film (and not, I think, a documentary...)
Prophetic satire then. Watch it anyway, you owe it to Spike Milligan.
Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying
#77Whether US companies would willingly insert changes at the behest of those agencies I do not know.
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I don't think Russia is capable of spying on mobile phones. And have doubts about Israel too. How would they even get there?
Endless apps and vulnerabilities.
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Why is it better to be spied upon by a “democratic” country? Especially if that country has been known to start a dozen wars and topple numerous regimes in the last decade or so?
When you gotta pick one, even tiny difference is a difference.
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When you gotta pick one, even tiny difference is a difference.
Yeah but I’m not sure the US is your best bet for enemy. No country has started more wars, possibly in history.
Coming from eastern europe and seeing what happened in Ukraine, I see trigger-happiness of US as an advantage.
If Russia comes banging at our doors, I don't trust Germany or France to do more than issue a stern letter. China? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't give a fuck. US of A? That's our only bet TBH.