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Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

nzealand wrote: post #62
rubenverborgh wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No worries, that e-mail is definitely not my only response. Not putting all my cards on the table yet. Grandstanding is not my goal; it's a means of attracting attention to a matter that people have been desensitized to. A secondary goal is to cause internal escalation. In the end, I really just want my data, as way to create a path for myself and others.

Unfortunately, that tool only gives me all of the data I put on there myself. So nothing I didn’t already have I believe that is all you are entitled to, under the data portability portion of GDPR: The data subject shall have the right to receive the personal data concerning him or her, which he or she has provided to a controller For information about you, uploaded by someone else, I thought your rights are not so c…

The Data Portability article is about receiving that uploaded data in a standard, machine-readable format, and Article 14 on data not obtained from the data subject just says what extra information must be provided about it.

Article 15 - "Right of access by the data subject" - is what defines one's right to a copy of personal data, and has no restriction on the personal data one is entitled to access.

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

kekebo wrote: post #5

It would be great if this could result in a dedicated page with instructions and templates on how to successfully move through this kafkaesque absurdity. Thanks for the effort already.

Max Schrems, who successfully sued FB over this, has such a page! http://europe-v-facebook.org/EN/Get_your_Data_/get_your_data...

See also his non-profit org dedicated to data protection in the EU: https://noyb.eu/

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

throwaway_gdpr wrote: post #54
mtnGoat wrote: post #50

If I worked at FB I'd seriously be considering my morals these days, and how important they are versus a cush job.

Most of this thread is filled with toxic, logically fallible attacks, which is why I avoided commenting earlier. I decided, however, to create a throwaway to respond to this. Anyone in this thread who is willing to step back and actually look at the facts, this message is for you. Facebook takes the GDPR very seriously. I know this, because I know some of the people who worked on compliance. Facebook has lawyers who…

From Facebook's email: "We use location-related information – such as your current location, where you live, the places you like to go, and the businesses and people you’re near (..)"

From their Help page on the data downloaded in the "Your Information", the only locations included are "The last location associated with an update."

How can you possibly claim they "gave them access to all of the data that they had on him"? FB itself denies this claim.

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

throwaway_gdpr wrote: post #54
mtnGoat wrote: post #50

If I worked at FB I'd seriously be considering my morals these days, and how important they are versus a cush job.

Most of this thread is filled with toxic, logically fallible attacks, which is why I avoided commenting earlier. I decided, however, to create a throwaway to respond to this. Anyone in this thread who is willing to step back and actually look at the facts, this message is for you. Facebook takes the GDPR very seriously. I know this, because I know some of the people who worked on compliance. Facebook has lawyers who…

> the GDPR does not cover raw server dumps, a fact which has been proven in court.

What's the case?

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

kevsim wrote: post #52

One bit of misinformation in the article, I believe: > Not valid, since gdpr applies to eu citizens everywhere, regardless of where they live. This isn’t correct. GDPR applies to people IN the European Union, not their citizenship [0] [0] https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

True. It also applies to everyone if the company is registered in the EU.

Since Facebook was using their Ireland branch as the main company for all users outside the US and Canada, that means everyone outside those countries can make GDPR requests to them. Unfortunately, not for long: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-privacy-eu-exclu...

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by mtnGoat »

Liquix wrote: post #57
throwaway_gdpr wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of this thread is filled with toxic, logically fallible attacks, which is why I avoided commenting earlier. I decided, however, to create a throwaway to respond to this. Anyone in this thread who is willing to step back and actually look at the facts, this message is for you. Facebook takes the GDPR very seriously. I know this, because I know some of the people who worked on compliance. Facebook has lawyers who…

This comes off like you're mainly trying to justify your moral views to yourself. How do you figure "the user already has access to their own data" when the author never received their explicitly requested location/device/wireless history (which FB definitely has)? Does the GDPR only apply to publicly available data? I was under the impression the company was obligated to give the user everything, public and private.

I concur, this sounds more like someone trying to convince themselves that their morals are still intact and justify their decision. Certainly not changing my point of view.

I guess drinking too much of the KoolAid does this to... maybe thats why all the big co's have so many KoolAid drinking sessions. :)

Re: Getting my personal data out of Facebook

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Post by mtnGoat »

throwaway_gdpr wrote: post #54
mtnGoat wrote: post #50

If I worked at FB I'd seriously be considering my morals these days, and how important they are versus a cush job.

Most of this thread is filled with toxic, logically fallible attacks, which is why I avoided commenting earlier. I decided, however, to create a throwaway to respond to this. Anyone in this thread who is willing to step back and actually look at the facts, this message is for you. Facebook takes the GDPR very seriously. I know this, because I know some of the people who worked on compliance. Facebook has lawyers who…

its not a single event that should, its the overarching point of view from your CEO and such, along with a long list of violations that should make you question you morals.
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