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Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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This is ominous for Apple as well, being the poster child of American industry. China could retaliate by disrupting Apple's supply chain, but I don't think it will happen as it would put a huge question mark over China as a component supplier for every single industry.

It's not ominous at all. China can't retaliate in that manner if they want Huawei to remain a functioning business. The US controls nearly all aspects of the global technology industry. It can rather smash Huawei any time it chooses to, ZTE style, by entirely revoking Huawei's access to critical components (and a lot of markets). Without China, Apple remains the most profitable company on earth and can safely, entire…

You're about a decade behind the curve. Huawei already has its own Kirin mobile SoC. There are no critical components that the USA can lock-down.

> Taiwan I'll note is not China.

Assuming you are referring to.Foxconn, their HQ is on Taiwan but the assembly lines are on the mainland.

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I don't think it is in Samsung's or Sony's interest.

Why not? They also built on Android to have one common ecosystem with all the benefits of scale. If Huawei now builds their own App Store, Samsung risks losing customers in countries where Huawei already dominates. Building one together would at least keep the status quo.

Please use some sense. You are suggesting Samsung and Huawei - two of the fiercest competitors to collaborate on an OS? While the Occam's razor argument is that Samsung will just goto Android with Google's apps and bleed Huawei away.

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Money talk, bs walks. Of course "Play store will continue to work". To use the Sex Pistols lyrics: God save the queen, 'Cause tourists are money , And our figurehead, Is not what she seems. Huawai may be 'evil' (or any other justification) but the money of the millions of Huawei phone owners are more than welcome. System update is a money-losing function. You get people to work and collaborate with vendors, but this…

What is your point?

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I could go one step further: Build another open source OS that can run Android app but not Android. Many Chinese companies already tried it (non-open source though) before but been persuaded not to, I guess they're feeling a little bit different now. The good part is, by building that OS, the domestic tech communities could receive a huge boost. So far for Huawei, Google's blockage is partly useless. As long as Huawe…

as somebody that bought an huawei device from a carrier, if carriers wont sell your devices you are just like dead. and i cannot imagine carriers selling devices that need to sideload google play and stuff.

The dominance of bundled sales by carriers is not a universal practice around the world. In Europe this was even forbidden for long time as it gave the Telco's too much power over the nascent mobile industry.

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I don't know how is it in US, but in Europe recently Huawei is very successful and growing. All big smartphone stores have now special tables with Huawei show-cases, lots of TV Ads.

"was"

Without Google, users will just shift over to Android. Agreed Huawei's phones are good but are they as good for users to not care about GMail, YouTube, Play Store etc.? On top of that, will users trust an OS by a Chinese company?

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Most Chinese versions of Android are completely de-Googled[1]- no Play store, no Maps, no GMail, etc. They have their own app store, web browser, and everything else. They are still based on Android, but it's not a stretch to think that most Chinese phone manufacturers could fork the open source project tomorrow. As soon as Google goes too far against the Chinese government, the manufacturers will receive a notice th…

In the end, the only superior system Google offers outside of China is Search (and to some degree Mail). Search can be integrated without the need of an app and GMail can be accessed by any mail client. All the other money making products (Maps, Play Store, Pay) could probably be replaced without users complaining much.

Bing's not banned in China, and it's not _that_ bad.

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This is ominous for Apple as well, being the poster child of American industry. China could retaliate by disrupting Apple's supply chain, but I don't think it will happen as it would put a huge question mark over China as a component supplier for every single industry.

It's not ominous at all. China can't retaliate in that manner if they want Huawei to remain a functioning business. The US controls nearly all aspects of the global technology industry. It can rather smash Huawei any time it chooses to, ZTE style, by entirely revoking Huawei's access to critical components (and a lot of markets). Without China, Apple remains the most profitable company on earth and can safely, entire…

Can you please tell us which part of US technology Huawei will need at all costs? CPU? Based on a European company design Memory? Chinese and Asian companies already in charge of most of this market Modem? They have their own design OS? They are already using open source Android without Google technology for Chinese use Screen? Same local and other asian sources dominate this world etc.

No the only way, US can impact these company is by preventing them to trade with the rest of the world. But after ZTE, this will be seen as full war by China, and the global economic impact of this will make 2008 looks like a great year for the economy.

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According to the article they think this is mandatory but they are still reviewing it.

Which would mean that it could hit any Chinese company within days and companies from other nations within weeks/months. I doubt the US government will put a ban on South Korean manufacturers but I'm not sure if Samsung wants to take that risk.

Samsung is a top OEM in US unlike Huawei. Also South Korea is a big US ally.

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I don't know how is it in US, but in Europe recently Huawei is very successful and growing. All big smartphone stores have now special tables with Huawei show-cases, lots of TV Ads.

Recently bought a cheap Huawei P5. After having owned phones from Nokia, Sony, LG, Apple, Microsoft and Google, the Huawei beats them hands down, no question.

Re: Google confirms Play store will continue to function for existing Huawei phones

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This is ominous for Apple as well, being the poster child of American industry. China could retaliate by disrupting Apple's supply chain, but I don't think it will happen as it would put a huge question mark over China as a component supplier for every single industry.

It's not ominous at all. China can't retaliate in that manner if they want Huawei to remain a functioning business. The US controls nearly all aspects of the global technology industry. It can rather smash Huawei any time it chooses to, ZTE style, by entirely revoking Huawei's access to critical components (and a lot of markets). Without China, Apple remains the most profitable company on earth and can safely, entire…

>Taiwan I'll note is not China.

And I'll note that headquarters are not the same as supply chains. Much of what Apple sells all over the world is made in China (PRC).

There's little doubt that both the US and China are capable of massively disrupting each other's tech industries in the short term.

But as I said, the incentives not to do that are overwhelming. Let's just hope the tit for tat doesn't get out of hand.

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