So why aren't we just using Sleep As Android like normal people, and not using some weird devices to track it? Absolutely don't understand the fetish of expensive devices just to track sleep, and I'm the one here with the non-24hr circadian rhythm.
Sleepless in Silicon Valley
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#72My sleep tracking now consists of putting my APAP on to counteract my sleep apnea, falling asleep within seconds because I'm like Pavlov's sleeping baby dog because of the machine, and then waking up and seeing what the machine says re: how long it has been pushing air in my nose. It works surprisingly well, actually. If I only got 6.5 hours of APAP last night, then I will pretty reliably go to bed a little earlier t…
I'm curious - How do stomach sleepers adjust to these masks? Or does sleep apnea only affect back sleepers? It would be impossible for me to sleep wearing a mask.
Definitely doesn't only affect back sleepers. I sleep almost exclusively on my side. There are some very small masks including a type that only has two tiny "pillows" (as I understand they are called) that rest right up on/in your nostrils. Mine basically only covers my nose and has the hose on the top of my head so I can turn from side to side. I'm not sure that would be good enough for a stomach sleeper, but it might. I can see how being a stomach sleeper could make wearing a respiratory mask difficult, for sure.
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#73Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…
I was using a Fitbit Charge (the one before the just released one). One night I was awake looking at my phone from 1-3am and it said I was asleep. Took it off and put it into a drawer right then.
I've got a Charge 3, the one with the oxygen sensor, and I've also seen it think I was asleep when I wasn't. On the other hand, it seems weirdly reliable at telling if I'm in REM sleep or not. Whenever I wake up directly from what it says was REM sleep I remember my dreams but not otherwise.
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#74I recently went through a sleep study, and the doctor was openly aggravated by how current trends and devices focus on "deep sleep", when it's actually "light sleep" that we need to regain our mental focus.
Really? Care to elaborate?
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your example seems to disagree with your premise. If someone tells me I weigh "9239" this means nothing to me, unless in context of whether it's going up or down, and how it is related to others of my height (and age and gender, perhaps). I don't care that I weigh some multiple of an SI unit, or some fraction of a car. I care about my weight relative to others and my history.
If you care about your weight relative to others, then it has to be accurate, no? Because how would you compare your weight unless you had a bunch of people using your scale.
True, but given that it's more difficult to change your weight than it is to find someone of a different weight, I'd rather live my whole life with a scale that might be reading (say) 5lbs high or low, rather than a scale that fluctuates between 5lbs high or low from measurement to measurement.
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#76My sleep tracking now consists of putting my APAP on to counteract my sleep apnea, falling asleep within seconds because I'm like Pavlov's sleeping baby dog because of the machine, and then waking up and seeing what the machine says re: how long it has been pushing air in my nose. It works surprisingly well, actually. If I only got 6.5 hours of APAP last night, then I will pretty reliably go to bed a little earlier t…
Would it be dangerous if the machine fails during sleep? Ie block breathing
No, the hose and mask have vents to allow some input. And even when it is off, you can draw air through the hose, there's just no positive pressure.
It's not comfortable, but it's not dangerous.
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#77My sleep tracking now consists of putting my APAP on to counteract my sleep apnea, falling asleep within seconds because I'm like Pavlov's sleeping baby dog because of the machine, and then waking up and seeing what the machine says re: how long it has been pushing air in my nose. It works surprisingly well, actually. If I only got 6.5 hours of APAP last night, then I will pretty reliably go to bed a little earlier t…
As Pavlov would tell you, it doesn't need to be a mask. It can be anything. So for the mass market, perhaps a bell would be a better choice.
Sleep researchers and doctors claim that your bed itself should be the bell. It will be easiest for you to fall asleep if you don't spend any time in your bed unless you are actively trying to fall asleep. No reading a book before you sleep, no checking your email in the morning, etc.
They prioritize it to the point that, if you are lying in bed trying to sleep at night for more than 20 minutes, you should get up and spend some time relaxing somewhere else.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your example seems to disagree with your premise. If someone tells me I weigh "9239" this means nothing to me, unless in context of whether it's going up or down, and how it is related to others of my height (and age and gender, perhaps). I don't care that I weigh some multiple of an SI unit, or some fraction of a car. I care about my weight relative to others and my history.
No, it does not. Say I'm 6' tall. "Normal" BMI is between 18.5 and 25, which translates to between 136.4 lbs - 184.3 lbs. Telling me my weight is going up or down tells me nothing about whether I fall into this healthy range. And, depending where I fall (below, within, or above the range), the actions I would wish to take differ. It's that simple. What instrument do you have that measures your "weight relative to oth…
But weight by itself (and BMI) are fairly crude measures. You could be 6' tall, be a muscular 210 lbs with a body fat of 10% and be classed as obese. The next level of the "onion" is body composition (fancy scales do this, but not that well). Then you're getting dexa scans....and there are probably other levels after that. I think I'd rather know if my weight and body fat % are going up or down, rather than their absolute value.
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#79In New Zealand, electric blankets are very common because (for the most part) we're too poor to live in insulated houses. It's hilarious that they've been re-discovered as a sleep hack for hyper-wealthy californians.
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#80Paywalled, but based on the free paragraphs, I was kinda surprised that it didn't talk about the other factors that may affect sleep. Currently reading 'Why we sleep' which is a fascinating book about the importance/history/evolution of sleep across species and time. (Highly recommend it -- definitely regretting all the sleepless/low sleep nights) At a high level, my understanding is that the duration/quality of slee…
>(I would definitely love to sleep with zero light/sound).
You might not actually like it. Try a sensory deprivation tank and see how that works for you.
To reduce the noise you can always reach for quality earplugs, a sleeping mask, and blackout curtains.