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Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

#41
I recently went through a sleep study, and the doctor was openly aggravated by how current trends and devices focus on "deep sleep", when it's actually "light sleep" that we need to regain our mental focus.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

#42
I use a Samsung smartwatch that came with my Samsung S9 as a package deal.

The sleep tracker has been useful to me in tracking my quantity/quality and average sleep.

I still get to spend a few weeks a year a few times a year assessing human performance.

Sleep is absolutely critical to human physical, mental, emotional, and social performance.

And as the parent of adolescent children who are technology driven, monitoring their "digital nutrition", mixing in other activities, ensuring they are well fed/hydrated, and compelling good sleep hygiene is absolutely essential to their development as adolescents towards adulthood.

It's quite shocking to observe how common it is for both adults and children to be seen suffering from poor sleep hygiene.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

It doesn't matter so much how accurate it is, as long as it's consistently inaccurate. I don't care if my scale at home is perfectly accurate. I care about knowing that my weight is going up/down.

At 50-65% accuracy rates it’s pretty useless even for binary decision making (better/worse).

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

It doesn't matter so much how accurate it is, as long as it's consistently inaccurate. I don't care if my scale at home is perfectly accurate. I care about knowing that my weight is going up/down.

I care if my scale at home is accurate. I don't want to know if my weight is going up or down, I want to know what I currently weigh so I can decide what I need to do about it.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

#46

Hmm another sleep article. I'll share what I do. After being in the Army for a while, and waking up at 430 and going to bed at close to midnight for a long time during the week (there's no real "sleep schedule" overseas though) I've been working on tuning my sleep cycle for the seasons to great success. Over the last year I've been slightly altering my alarm each night based on when sunrise is (plus going to bed earl…

Can you detail it more? Sounds like I'd benefit from this way of sleeping.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter so much how accurate it is, as long as it's consistently inaccurate. I don't care if my scale at home is perfectly accurate. I care about knowing that my weight is going up/down.

I care if my scale at home is accurate. I don't want to know if my weight is going up or down, I want to know what I currently weigh so I can decide what I need to do about it.

Cant you just use the mirror for that?

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

I was using a Fitbit Charge (the one before the just released one). One night I was awake looking at my phone from 1-3am and it said I was asleep. Took it off and put it into a drawer right then.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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post #48
post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

I was using a Fitbit Charge (the one before the just released one). One night I was awake looking at my phone from 1-3am and it said I was asleep. Took it off and put it into a drawer right then.

I just got the Charge 3 and I must toss and turn like crazy because it sometimes doesn't even register my sleep. I didn't expect it to be the most accurate sleep tracker, so I am not super upset. It still gives me some level of insight into my sleep, which is better than nothing.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it depends. do you have 314 in disposable income? is health really important for you?

Yeah, I probably have the cash. But it's just for tracking sleep. I know that I sleep like shit. I go to bed at 0030 and wake up at 0700. Don't really know what difference the ring would make here. No idea what the ring would tell me what I don't really know and how in the world I would turn the data into something usable.

What's the next thing you'll try to improve your sleep?
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