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EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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After the 80's terrorism in the EU basically died off, with some exceptions like North Ireland which lasted a bit longer.

Then came the EU, Merkel and Co and look it it now. After crackdowns on cash and crypto, the next Big Brother pet project is biometrics. What a globalist shithole!

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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It is still possible to hold an EU passport which does not contain any biometric data, even though it's getting harder and harder and I suspect the still available loopholes will be eliminated pretty soon. For example I live in an Eastern-European country that is also an EU member and I hold a passport which does not have any incorporated biometric data in it, but that only happens because I specifically chose a temp…

> giving your biometric info away ...you do realize that "biometric info" is the most easily accessible / stealable type of information. Anyone can grab your biometric infos easily if you become a person of interest, so it's hard to think of what you're practically gaining. It's like Americans with their SSNs, this kind of information is practically public (ignoring legalese and crap), so trying to keep it away from…

> Sure, if you fancy a career in intelligence or as an undercover something

Well, if you plan a career undercover, you will want you biometrics recorded everywhere linked to alternative identities. The lack of biometric record is going raise more flags than Generic Joe passing through. This move of centralising biometric database is going to seriously reduce your number of available alternative personas.

No having your biometric stored is a loudable goal and should be seen as a form of protest. Like people living off the grid.

Unfortunately, as noble parent intention are, they are aligned with the much more pragmatic intentions of criminals, which means that, indeed, it will be harder and harder to achieve it and even when he succeed, he will make his profile light up like a Christmas tree in all the system when he tries to lead a normal life.

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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You were without a question dealing with an incompetent border officer in that case. Finnish ID card issued to a Finnish national is a valid travel document to all EU countries, to all Nordic countries, and to Switzerland. Additionally, for the citizens of all Nordic countries, no official travel documents are required to other Nordic countries in the first place. There is only a requirement to "be able to prove your…

> There is only a requirement to "be able to prove your identity on request" - for which a driver's license would usually suffice. This is how travel works right now between the UK and Ireland, hence why it's such a big pain point in regards to Brexit.

It is a bit more amusing than that, sort of a Catch 22 situation.

In neither Ireland nor the UK, nor for travel between them (except by 'plane) is one required to have or produce ID.

What one has to do (if asked, and then a right asserted) is establish one's right to enter the country. The easiest way to do that is via a Passport.

One can still travel (by boat) between the two countries w/o a passport, you just have to be prepared (if challenged) to argue and maybe waste some time.

Driving a vehicle in the the UK (and I assume in Ireland) is a situation where one can be required to produce ID (even then you do not have to carry it), but not in normal day to day life.

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Interesting fact. I thought that having an ID card is pretty much mandatory in whole EU. In Slovakia you get one at age of 15 (I think) and it has biometric data - picture and fingerprints. You are not required by law to carry it with you, but it can cause delays if need to be verified by police or other authority. It’s also used to login into e-gov services with a card reader and your pin - but it’s quite limited at…

In several EU countries you're required to carry id at all times. In the US Green Card holders are required to carry the card at all times.

> In several EU countries you're required to carry id at all times.

Any idea what the punishment is for not carrying?

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Not quite. There is no database in some countries. I am not going to give the EU biometrical data, even if that means skipping some "services". Edit: I would also guess it is incompatible with recently introduced legislation.

Good luck with that! For instance "New EU regulations for transaction authentication which go into effect next year are expected by Mastercard to significantly increase the use of biometrics for purchases". You can be sure that eventually no one will have a choice if they want to lead any kind of normal life. Obligatory capturing of biometric data at many airports is just getting going. For the ex-USSR - the Soviet R…

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Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Wouldn't be surprised if they soon move to track everyone's DNA and we will be living in a "Brave new World" future.

1984. "Brave New World" doesn't need things like that, it's a much more terrifying future, when everyone is happy in their little golden cage.

Re: EU votes to create gigantic biometrics database

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Merging existing databases into one big one might be more accurate but that's modern journalism.

The article links to a design document that clearly states that this is a new system. Modern journalism still way better than some random guy commenting on HN. qed
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