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Interesting. I read that as a future-looking statement, justifying the past as an indicator of the future. Consider the statement "I don't think I could have survived if I was forced to cycle to work every day!" While I'm not saying it outright, I'm making it clear that tomorrow I will not be cycling to work. At the end, he almost does say it outright: "But our vision is a grand one—unify all of computation into a si…
When he says ("But our vision is a grand one—unify all of computation into a single coherent language, and for that, the FOSS development model is not well suited") is not that Wolfram can't be made open source nominally (e.g. "we make it, we control development completely, I call the shots, but it's just under GPL" for example). His emphasis is that Wolfram was not, and in his opinion will never be, a good fit for t…
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
When he says ("But our vision is a grand one—unify all of computation into a single coherent language, and for that, the FOSS development model is not well suited") is not that Wolfram can't be made open source nominally (e.g. "we make it, we control development completely, I call the shots, but it's just under GPL" for example). His emphasis is that Wolfram was not, and in his opinion will never be, a good fit for t…
Keep in mind that "FOSS development model" does not equal "bazaar-style" development. Case in point: the *BSDs follow a more cathedral-style development model. I fully agree with the author's first point ("A coherent vision requires centralized design"). Reusing my previous example, BSDs are shipped as operating systems, not a kernel and a hodge podge of packages. There's a bunch of things that are half assed on Linu…
I think it does (equal "bazaar-style" development).
Else it's not a product with a "FOSS development model", but merely a product with a "FOSS license".
But he talks of "FOSS development model" (as opposed to "FOSS license" or "FOSS business model").
>Reusing my previous example, BSDs are shipped as operating systems, not a kernel and a hodge podge of packages.
For their core (kernel + userland) yes. But on top they are still as much "a hodge podge of packages", with uncoordinated development and releases as Linux (e.g. the desktop environments, applications, window managers, compilers, app servers, etc -- it's just the kernel and basic UNIX userland that's coherent in BSDs).
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#73Does anyone remember his book "A New Kind of Science" which was a really discredited, unoriginal, hack-fraudish, non-scientifically vetted essay on cellular automata?
Still I admire the amount of diligence and energy that went into this. Wolfram spent several years _obsessed_ with this stuff. See his 2012 blogpost about his "quantified self" recordings: https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2012/03/the-personal-analyti...
Maybe A New Kind of Science will create a surge sometime (just like Neural Networks were declared dead for several years, then Deep Learning came along and they took off)
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#75"fall madly in love!" with GAP (Computer Algebra System) "9.0 Open source doesn’t bring major tech innovation to market". You have to have some balls to say that. Major mathematical libraries used in HPC are OSS.
Since neither of us included contact info in our profiles, commenting here instead of a PM. I stumbled across one of your prior comments.
All I want to say is I hope you're now doing well. Or least better.
I'll delete this reply in a few days, or after you acknowledge, which ever comes first.