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Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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Does anyone remember his book "A New Kind of Science" which was a really discredited, unoriginal, hack-fraudish, non-scientifically vetted essay on cellular automata?

I own the book, and I enjoyed at least some parts of it. Primitive cellular automata classification also had some scientific merit, and now widely cited. It could be shorter and/or probably better structured as a series of blog posts, but it doesn’t deserve such vitriol, in my opinion.

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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post #5

For the greater good of the world he shouldn't OSS it, but make it free! I'm mostly a R/Python statistics type, but a multi-day course in Mathematica left me in awe. It is great software. The way you could make models dynamic in a user interface kind of way was way ahead of it's time. It's pricing was prohibitive though and we chose not to pursue it.

Well, there is a free tier in Wolfram Cloud, which shares the same language...

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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Linux is an example of an open source project with centralized design & management and a unified vision. Mathematica is a brilliant product, and more people would use it if it was open source but it's ok that's it not.

An OS kernel is a bounded problem, it abstracts hardware, enforces some security constraints, and allows user programs to run. So it's not really that hard to have a consensus of what Linux should do.

Linux also has the (unique to it) idea that the kernel and the rest of the OS are not the same thing. There is no other integration point than the ABI for userspace.

And OTOH, Linux userspace is ridiculously de-centralized. There's competing distros, init systems, C runtimes, memory allocators, filesystems, etc.

And that's not even taking into account the absolute chaos of the Linux desktop.

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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post #5

For the greater good of the world he shouldn't OSS it, but make it free! I'm mostly a R/Python statistics type, but a multi-day course in Mathematica left me in awe. It is great software. The way you could make models dynamic in a user interface kind of way was way ahead of it's time. It's pricing was prohibitive though and we chose not to pursue it.

Mathematica is free on any Raspberry Pi.

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. And what nonsense about cohesive design. There's nothing cohesive about the design of Wolfram functions and parameters. Often, they're not even documented! Wolfram is just a huge proprietary library. It's arguably not a language at all. And it has an appalling UI that makes it unsuited for building modern apps for others.

Agreed. It definitely has its uses, but it lacks the self-consistency needed to be a language. Alot of this is for understandable historical reasons, but it has never been smoothed out as it would be in a project with more community involvement. Again that's ok. Maybe we need something to be to mathematica as octave is to matlab.

https://www.maplesoft.com/compare/mathematica_analysis/

That you haven't heard of it is perhaps telling.

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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post #5

For the greater good of the world he shouldn't OSS it, but make it free! I'm mostly a R/Python statistics type, but a multi-day course in Mathematica left me in awe. It is great software. The way you could make models dynamic in a user interface kind of way was way ahead of it's time. It's pricing was prohibitive though and we chose not to pursue it.

Mathematica is free on any Raspberry Pi.

I know. There's quite the lack of computing power on the RPi though for professional use. And thus no use in investing the time in learning Mathematica. (The BOFHs would fall over laughing if you tried to bring a RPi for BYOD.)

My point was to combine a compliment (it's a truly awesome set of tools) with a gripe (the pricing is so prohibitive, even decision makers in pretty cost-oblivious organisations cringe when hearing the fees).

I dare say any financial organisation could replace the multilanguaged hell that is user built software by Mathematica and leap forward. It's the licensing cost that make Mathematica a niche product. Microsoft could buy Mathematica and integrate it with Excel (again, partly in jest).

Re: Why Wolfram Tech Isn’t Open Source

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post #5

For the greater good of the world he shouldn't OSS it, but make it free! I'm mostly a R/Python statistics type, but a multi-day course in Mathematica left me in awe. It is great software. The way you could make models dynamic in a user interface kind of way was way ahead of it's time. It's pricing was prohibitive though and we chose not to pursue it.

>multi-day course in Mathematica left me in awe

Out of curiosity, what did you do? Symbolic analysis?

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