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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by jaequery »

justinpombrio wrote: post #45
jancsika wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me see if I understand the problem. alice register on instance "music" alice wants to see what's up on instance "books" Is the problem that the default behavior of Mastodon requires alice to register a new account on "books" just to see that instance's timeline?

Yes, that is exactly the problem. Although it might be better to say that that's the manifestation of the real problem. The real problem is that I want to be able to talk about books sometimes, even though I'm a musician so I registered on the musician instance. If there's a way for me to have conversations about books, I don't care whether it's an "instance" or not. I just don't want to manage two separate accounts.…

Slack also have this same "problem" but strangely enough, it didn't stop them from growing as they are now.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by TheJoYo »

CharlesW wrote: post #56
TheJoYo wrote: post #22

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I follow people on blacklisted instances and have no problems viewing their posts. Counter Social seems to be a walled garden but it suits their mission statement. EDIT: the article mentions shitposter.club as a blacklisted instance. I've been following https://shitposter.club/moonman for years with only minor migration issues.

> Counter Social seems to be a walled garden but it suits their mission statement. It's not, but counter.social users are blacklisted by Mastodon folks who don't like how th3j35t3r[1] is running his Mastodon node. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jester_(hacktivist)

not entirely true. they prevent veiwing of posts from anonymous users. I have no doubts that the blacklisting isn't helping them debug that issue. I just keep an account on there and cross post when it's relavent.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by mattl »

unimpressive wrote: post #39
stesch wrote: post #25

What I don't understand: Why do they promote the software instead of the protocols? News and e-mail had different server software and clients and were both used around the world. Mastodon uses standard protocols, too.

People use software, the value add Mastodon has over GnuSocial is that it's software that advertises itself to users on its own merits. (Well that and a moderation policy that's stricter than Twitter's, supposedly.)

GNU social was never supposed to be a brand seen by end users. The idea was “take our software, make your own network”

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by valtism »

ifur wrote: post #38
crooked-v wrote: post #36

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> Generally don't like AJAX, it's JS and XML, and in the latter case Twitter services don't require Stylesheets or XLS as it's called -- without -- XML is bloated and creates metadata for sale. In addition to AJAX allowing Orwellian advertisement influence. ...what?

In addition to tagging data with XML, I wont go into the misguided use of it in configuration files as its not really quicker creating checks using XML and XLS as a programmer in the "zone" :) Point is that albeit nice, there is no need for something like this to even be in a browser. But by using AJAX it kind of have to be. In addition to advertisers being able to know due to Javascript that the user is present. And…

I think you have a misunderstanding of what AJAX is. I have no idea what you are getting at with the political rambling about metadata and Trump.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by spinningarrow »

fimdomeio wrote: post #24

I would love to remember to which instance I signed up with. This is a problem that is harder to solve than email was in the 90's. I knew that it was myNickname@myISP.myCountry. For mastodon I guess I'll have to go through the list and find the exotic instance i signed up with.

Wouldn’t you have received a confirmation email from the instance you signed up with?

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by stevenicr »

oopsman88 wrote: post #6
phaedryx wrote: post #5

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Why not just join an instance that matches your needs or start your own instance and make it whatever you want?

Because most of the bigger instances have shared blocklists. I am not interested in Mastodon as a tech stack, I am interested in joining a social network. But the truth is that it's all aligned to the political left. And I'm sad because I think Twitter is very politically charged and its alternative should be neutral. You can create your own instance or join a small instance you like, but that would be like IRC. I al…

I am appreciating this comment, not because I agree or disagree, but it contains some views I had not considered and they may be important for others who I might want to attract to a mastadon instance if I set up one.

I've been keeping on eye on this project for many months, and it's been very interesting. A recent post about moderation and mastadon was very nice to read, but I had only considered the info there from my personal perspective.

I had not considered the network affects of shared blocklists, and now I wonder if this is put up front and center on each instance - are people who sign up notified of the blocklists each instance has?

It's also interesting to consider the end user who does not care about the tech and it's possibilities, and instead just looking for a social network that is easy to use and different than the other big networks in one way or another.

I do not see how creating an instance is like IRC, and I have not seen anything about joining small instances and how that would be like IRC. To me IRC is like a download and run, with mastadon you have to host an instance. I guess it could be just run on someone else's though.

If it was self hosted as an app or browser extension, I suppose it could run something like scuttlebutt and just re-sync when it re-connects - that would be interesting.

That makes me wonder what it could be like if it was installed on a million routers like nextcould is doing(?) - not sure I read that recent post correct.

I am still interested in mastadon, my idea is to somehow make it, or something like it has various bouncers you can follow / make part of your stream. So rather than depend on or have one block list server wise, you could have open servers and subscribe to different bouncer lists, kind of like the adblock lists - and that way some people could choose bouncers that block certain types of material they may want to avoid and be comfortable with certain people or groups making those kinds of, for example left or right leaning, or even block all trump and kardashian news, or all kinds of neat bouncers that could be created.

The future looks interesting and more possible to be less non-federated, I think the world is more ready for that now.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by windowsfon4ever »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #29
oopsman88 wrote: post #3

With all of its faults, I'll take Twitter and its almost free speech over Mastodon any day. Many people say they are quitting Twitter because of the algorithmic timeline and so on, and they are going to Mastodon where a cabal of people choose to ban opinions that are perfectly legal.

I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name. Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.

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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by [deleted] »

phaedryx wrote: post #2

I've become more and more annoyed with Twitter (the company) and Twitter (the things people are tweeting) and I've been looking for a replacement. I really like the way that the Fediverse has all kinds of different groups/instances/neighborhoods. For example, I joined https://ruby.social this week and I've had some interesting discussions about Ruby programming. Twitter is a mess of everything because anything and ev…

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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by [deleted] »

phaedryx wrote: post #2

I've become more and more annoyed with Twitter (the company) and Twitter (the things people are tweeting) and I've been looking for a replacement. I really like the way that the Fediverse has all kinds of different groups/instances/neighborhoods. For example, I joined https://ruby.social this week and I've had some interesting discussions about Ruby programming. Twitter is a mess of everything because anything and ev…

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