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From GNU social to Mastodon

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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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I assume you can't and this is a fundamental problem of federated systems.

we're working on it ;) there are a handful of proposals for doing SSO on fediverse, but it isn't super high priority since creating multiple accounts (alts) is a pretty common practice here.

> but it isn't super high priority since creating multiple accounts (alts) is a pretty common practice here.

Then you'll only end up with users that are willing to put up with that, and you will not get users that perceive this as a major inconvenience (I'm in this camp, and I suspect many, many others are too.)

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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With all of its faults, I'll take Twitter and its almost free speech over Mastodon any day. Many people say they are quitting Twitter because of the algorithmic timeline and so on, and they are going to Mastodon where a cabal of people choose to ban opinions that are perfectly legal.

I follow people on blacklisted instances and have no problems viewing their posts. Counter Social seems to be a walled garden but it suits their mission statement.

EDIT: the article mentions shitposter.club as a blacklisted instance. I've been following https://shitposter.club/moonman for years with only minor migration issues.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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I would love to remember to which instance I signed up with. This is a problem that is harder to solve than email was in the 90's. I knew that it was myNickname@myISP.myCountry. For mastodon I guess I'll have to go through the list and find the exotic instance i signed up with.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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What I don't understand: Why do they promote the software instead of the protocols?

News and e-mail had different server software and clients and were both used around the world.

Mastodon uses standard protocols, too.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we're working on it ;) there are a handful of proposals for doing SSO on fediverse, but it isn't super high priority since creating multiple accounts (alts) is a pretty common practice here.

> but it isn't super high priority since creating multiple accounts (alts) is a pretty common practice here. Then you'll only end up with users that are willing to put up with that, and you will not get users that perceive this as a major inconvenience (I'm in this camp, and I suspect many, many others are too.)

As a long time Mastodon user, I've never done the alt-account thing. If I'm interested in another community... I follow a bunch of people from that community. You don't need to have an account on every server, and I never have.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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So I was curious and went to look at a few of the servers online. The top server was an unending stream (like, more than once a minute) of Richard Stallman automatically posting political references from some other service he apparently runs. Another server was just some guy who I have never heard of complaining about various things. I came across a group talking about current and passed times they had a beer.

That content will not inspire others to join.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Because most of the bigger instances have shared blocklists. I am not interested in Mastodon as a tech stack, I am interested in joining a social network. But the truth is that it's all aligned to the political left. And I'm sad because I think Twitter is very politically charged and its alternative should be neutral. You can create your own instance or join a small instance you like, but that would be like IRC. I al…

I agree. No single person or group should have the capability to "censor" anyone. On an individual basis, any single user should decide to block, hide or completely ignore anyone they want at will. And here's the thing, Mastodon already has all kinds of controls like that for all users. Why the need to have a "benevolent dictator" that can by popularity or influence can decide what an entire group gets to read or see…

I don't want to spend my time manually figuring out who I should block, work that I suspect a lot of people with similar values have already done; that's just wasted and repeated effort. I'm on the Mastodon instance I'm on because I trust my moderators to have values pretty close to mine and there are network effects in sharing this load (all of the users can mention things to the moderators), and then we have more time for the things we actually want to do on the site.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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With all of its faults, I'll take Twitter and its almost free speech over Mastodon any day. Many people say they are quitting Twitter because of the algorithmic timeline and so on, and they are going to Mastodon where a cabal of people choose to ban opinions that are perfectly legal.

I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name.

Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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post #27

So I was curious and went to look at a few of the servers online. The top server was an unending stream (like, more than once a minute) of Richard Stallman automatically posting political references from some other service he apparently runs. Another server was just some guy who I have never heard of complaining about various things. I came across a group talking about current and passed times they had a beer. That c…

Are you suggesting that the early days of Twitter were better? Heck, that even describes a large portion of current Twitter.
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