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Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change

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Re: Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change

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Post by s_kilk »

yesyesno wrote: post #33

Ouch. I read this and I am completely confused about what to do with the rest of the time I have left. Should I even bother with my current career in tech, or would it be better to quit it and do something that could have even a slight impact now? These articles are great, but preaching to the choir. What should any of us do? I'm seriously and sincerely asking. Are there any suggestions, from a personal stand point i…

> Are there any suggestions, from a personal stand point i.e. excluding a completely new economic model and government structure?

You've gone wrong at the very start. This isn't a problem that can be solved on an individual level, and the sad truth is that we do, in fact, need a new economic model. The sooner we own up to that the sooner we can move on with building it.

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Post by Comevius »

yesyesno wrote: post #33

Ouch. I read this and I am completely confused about what to do with the rest of the time I have left. Should I even bother with my current career in tech, or would it be better to quit it and do something that could have even a slight impact now? These articles are great, but preaching to the choir. What should any of us do? I'm seriously and sincerely asking. Are there any suggestions, from a personal stand point i…

Improvise, adapt, overcome. Death is a natural part of life. Civilizations die too. It all happened before, and if we are as inventive as I think it will happen again in the distant future.

So be inventive.

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Post by agumonkey »

zaarn wrote: post #35
agumonkey wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about vegetal roofs ? not strong enough ? because there's a huge surface area to tap into.

The global CO2 production dwarfs what you could do with trees, I'm fairly certain even if we planted a tree on every square centimeter available, it would not be sufficient to counter our production sufficiently. What we need is to invest in technology to reduce CO2. Nuclear fusion/fission, solar, wind, electric or alternative fuel cars, redesign CO2 industry processes, etc. The petrol and coal industry would have to…

If you understand French, there's an engineer called Jean-Marc Jancovici who is deep into the 'nuclear is the only solution so far'. He made talks on youtube on how to decarbonate economies.

Re: Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change

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Post by roter »

erikrothoff wrote: post #3

Why isn't there a billion dollar reward to any person or company that comes up with a cost-effective way to capture carbon from the air and convert back to solid carbon? I'd love to understand the physics (or chemistry? maybe economy?) that prevents this from materialising.

There is the Carbon Prize which is part of the way there [0]:

> A $20 Million global competition to develop breakthrough technologies that will convert CO₂ emissions from power plants and industrial facilities into valuable products like building materials, alternative fuels and other items that we use every day. Teams will be scored on how much CO₂ they convert and the net value of their products.

[0]: https://carbon.xprize.org/

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Post by shusson »

netgusto wrote: post #67

Why is this entry already on page 2 of HN? Seems a bit fast given the popularity and the fact that it was posted 2 hours ago (also, compared to those that are present on p1) -- edit: we're now on page 3 just 30 minutes after my comment.

wondering the same thing, people flagging it?

Re: Losing Earth: The Decade We Almost Stopped Climate Change

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netgusto wrote: post #67

Why is this entry already on page 2 of HN? Seems a bit fast given the popularity and the fact that it was posted 2 hours ago (also, compared to those that are present on p1) -- edit: we're now on page 3 just 30 minutes after my comment.

Wow sinking so fast. Slot 47 RN, on its way to page 3.

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Post by agumonkey »

nmeofthestate wrote: post #63
agumonkey wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

until they can't, are we that blind ?

No solution to climate change involves persuading everyone to choose to live in energy poverty. Get that out of the way and look for workable solutions. Without a workable solution there will be no solution.

irk.

energy poverty ? there's a middle point between energy waste+opulence and poverty.

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Post by gepi79 »

pier25 wrote: post #59
ForHackernews wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want the honest but depressing answer: it's probably too late. Don't have kids unless you want them to have a worse life than you've had. On the plus side, the worst consequences from climate change will occur after we're dead. Just enjoy the rest of your life and try not to think about it too much. After all, that's what everyone else has been doing.

Sadly I agree. Climate change is one of the reasons we're not having kids. In part because they would have had a very bad life, but also because it's the best for the planet. Reducing consumption of resources is not working, so we should start thinking about controlling population growth.

If you want kids then have kids. Individual actions do not matter globally.

We are far away from global overpopulation. Unless people insist on fossil fuel, waste of resources and animal products as food.

More people are needed for more work for a better world.

Have a good life because it is important for work for improvement. Improvement means better technology.

I know about the dangerous situation but I am still optimistic for humans.

http://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127

https://thinkprogress.org/solar-wind-keep-getting-cheaper-33...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLRiaCjRkw

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-carbon/scie...

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-solar-to-fuel-recycles-co2-eth...

https://www.or.is/carbfix

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