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2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#71

Has the power supply been redesigned so the cord doesn't fray in 18 months? This has really irked me.

Since the 2016s were released the USB-C cord is separated from the power brick, so if there's any cord fraying you can just replace the cord w/o replacing the brick.

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I have a new 15" MBP on order at £3300. I also have a similar spec XPS 15 which cost me £2600. So yes the MBP is £700. The XPS also has a better CPU (i9-8950HK) but that is kind of a waste, I only got it with that because Dell basically upgraded me to it for free. However I have had no end of issues with my XPS 15. To the point that I have had enough and I am returning it for a refund and will pickup something else.…

>To be honest I am fine with pay £700 more for a machine that doesn't develop a problem with the spacebar after 11 days as well as all the other problems I have had. I'd argue that is a bad comparison. You're basically judging them both on a vacuum (since one is x amount more expensive but gives me reliability, that X extra is justified). but putting those two devices in context, if we take a look at earlier models,…

Oh it isn't a good comparison I agree with that. I can't help but be pissed off with Dell though. This isn't the first problem I have had with their "premium" laptops either. I only bought the 9570 as Apple was silent on upgrades to the MBP at WWDC but it has been the worst purchase I have made in years.

The MBP may be expensive but I have never had any issues with my previous MBPs so I feel much more confident buying one. I have a busy week this week with a lot of travel and I have to now make do with this XPS with a half working spacebar as Dell's "ProSupport" can't get me an engineer until Wednesday while I am on an flight! I am just so frustrated right now.

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because the 'market' decided that style was valueable and io was meh. a bit like cellphones with glued batteries, they removed 'user replaceable' for thinness.

> they removed 'user replaceable' for thinness Also better water resistance.

That's a myth. Some of the older Samsung models had removable batteries and good water resistance ratings.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Thinness does have some value for phones. For laptops, there's certainly a market for ultra portable machines but Apple seems to have forgotten that some of us use our computers for work and are willing to trade off thinness for practical usability.

same goes for smartphones, sadly the market has a tendency to align with 'stupid' goals and so no more production of non-thin devices. I'd be very happy with a thicker phone (larger battery, more shock resilience and even... some buttons)

So get a thin phone and put a battery back case on it?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Apple has a strategy where they don't compete on price and it works well for them. They've been able to get fantastic margins while other hardware manufacturers have struggled. Their higher price reinforces their premium brand identity too.

Apple does build high quality products so the brand identity is earned to some extent. Of course, they could sell these high quality products significantly cheaper, but why mess with a successful formula?

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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That automatic display makes me think about the bad experiences I have with the hardcoded adaptive contrast on my XPS-13 9350. It makes it unusable for pro grade photo editing since the features can't be turned off and the monitor therefore can't be calibrated. In addition, when trying to use the nightlight feature of the new gnome stack, the color temperature swings wildly with subtle color changes on the page caused by things such as scrolling, or highlighting text.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Apple has a strategy where they don't compete on price and it works well for them. They've been able to get fantastic margins while other hardware manufacturers have struggled. Their higher price reinforces their premium brand identity too. Apple does build high quality products so the brand identity is earned to some extent. Of course, they could sell these high quality products significantly cheaper, but why mess w…

For Macs, in my opinion they used to build high quality products, but they're losing their lead. macOS hasn't improved in ways that matter to me in years and some things got worse. The hardware used to be untouchably good, but the new MacBook Pros are worse for me than the original retina MacBook Pro I still use -- performance hasn't improved much (the latest upgrade might have changed that) and keyboard, ports, power connector all got worse.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Actually, I pay that extra amount without hesitation. Thinking of the times when I constantly had to fiddle around with my Windows ThinkPad or my Ubuntu ThinkPad, time is more expensive for me, so the extra 700 Euros means nothing for me. - But yes, you are right. They have gotten expensive in the past several years.

In my experience, the people who choose Wintel vs. Mac computers based primarily on price and not on whether it's the best tool for the task at hand are people whose time isn't very valuable. I'm not trying to be insulting. But if you're using the computer for work and you can save eight or ten or twelve hours over the course of a month, when you multiply that by your hourly rate and then again by the number of month…

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It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

I have a new 15" MBP on order at £3300. I also have a similar spec XPS 15 which cost me £2600. So yes the MBP is £700. The XPS also has a better CPU (i9-8950HK) but that is kind of a waste, I only got it with that because Dell basically upgraded me to it for free. However I have had no end of issues with my XPS 15. To the point that I have had enough and I am returning it for a refund and will pickup something else.…

I can't understand how computers with that bad coil whine can pass QC, especially at this price point. I bought brand new XPS 9360 for my father and when I first used it I thought that there is regular HDD inside because of how loud coil whine was.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

#80
For the life of me I don’t understand why most developers who work for a company - and get a company supplied laptop - buy a MacBook or any other laptop for personal use.

I don’t do any personal development currently. But when I start back on my personal projects, a 27 inch 5K iMac is much more appealing. You get more for your money, a nicer, bigger display, more ports, faster processors (at least for single core tasks), etc.

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