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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by notadoc »

pteredactyl wrote: post #27
notadoc wrote: post #22

Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

Yea, that's what gets me. Maybe I need to evolve, but to me the 'Pro' in MacBook Pro means you do not look away from the screen while working.

Prepare to be down voted for sharing the most ubiquitous opinion of every pro user I know.

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Post by makecheck »

notadoc wrote: post #22

Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

For me it’s not just that there’s no tactile feedback but that a lit/colored/app-switching display would force itself into your peripheral vision like some kind of banner ad. This means you are distracted into looking down at it both when you need it and when you don’t, meanwhile a real keyboard wouldn’t have required you to ever look at it.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by watmough »

csydas wrote: post #25
bluedino wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Macs have never been cheap. There was a period where the Air (at Let’s go back in time to when the choices were the $1799 12” PowerBook, $2199 15” PowerBook, or the $1299 iBook

Truthfully, it's why I'm very sad that the Air looks to be discontinued. I'm still using a 2012 MacBook Air, and it was quite possibly the least stressful computer purchase I ever made. $1000 and some change to get a computer that has just worked magnificently for nearly 6 years now without missing a beat. I walked into an Apple Store, told the Apple employee I wanted a 4 gb MacBook Air, and in 5 minutes I walked out…

Yes, on my Air now. It's like my old G4 12" AlBook, just a no-hassle, always there laptop.

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Post by gaius »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten.

Yes it’s strange. I would always buy upper-end kit for personal use for most of my adult life, had a succession of MBPs but now - even tho’ I earn more than I did in those days - I balk at the cost and have put off upgrading for a long time.

Disclaimer: I did recently upgrade and not to a Mac, for once.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by rz2k »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

It weighs half a pound less, and each extra charger you get costs $30 rather than $80.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by submeta »

knolan wrote: post #5

It’s shocking how expensive Macs have gotten. I paid around €2300 for my 2014 15” and today’s equivalent tier is over €3k. For this I get a faster thinner machine without MagSafe and a variety of ports. It seems that the only viable upgrade path is to convince your employer to stump up the cash.

Actually, I pay that extra amount without hesitation. Thinking of the times when I constantly had to fiddle around with my Windows ThinkPad or my Ubuntu ThinkPad, time is more expensive for me, so the extra 700 Euros means nothing for me. - But yes, you are right. They have gotten expensive in the past several years.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by Nicksil »

notadoc wrote: post #22

Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

Agreed.

The touch bar is the only thing preventing me from purchasing my next Macbook. The keyboard, with all its issues currently, makes it a tough buy as well.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by jen20 »

some_account wrote: post #2

A review where it's not being compared against other laptops but against older macs is only marginally useful. Of course it's going to be faster. The problem with Mac is not that it's slow, it's the lack of innovation.

This is the exact comparison I want - to know in which ways it is different from what I have now.

I'm not going to switch away from MacOS on my daily use machine (though do have various ThinkPads with FreeBSD and so forth), so comparison to the hardware other manufacturers hardware produce is irrelevant to me.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by jen20 »

notadoc wrote: post #22

Touch Bar kills it. I am a touch typer. I use the escape key constantly. I use the function keys frequently. Like every other touch typer I know, none of us want to look at our fingers to type anything, let alone to look down and navigate around a microscopic touch screen menu that requires you to not only look at your fingers but to move your hands away from the micro-screen to see what you're trying to tap on. I ha…

This is simply "anecdata".

I too touch type, and simply remapped escape to caps lock, the same as the last 15 years, and moved on. I have had a touch bar since late 2016, and have not missed function keys a single time, while I have several uses for the touch bar.

I would be annoyed if the touch bar were removed, or the trackpad made smaller, or the keyboard made spongier, or any of the other things that people on here like to claim "professionals" want.

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