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What a surprise! Microsoft villianised over the decades seems to be better than Google and Facebook. This brings us to the question. Have you paid XX money for a service that doesn’t show ads. Are you happy with it?
Microsoft _still_ does not let me turn off "Basic usage data/telemetry" being sent to them. I tried to call them about it a month ago and they hung up on me. The one computer in my house running windows is still blocked with this popup.
I was expecting "dark patterns" to be a hyperbole but these are clear violations of GDPR. This will probably catch public attention when the press gets hold of it and makes the screen shots more accessible (not hidden deep down in a PDF).
The press gets hold of it and realises that they're littered with Facebook and Google integrations, their consent policy is little better and then they decide that they're going to publish this? The press has been suckered into this whole mess in its sacrifice to keep revenue from advertising
Especially on mobile some of these cookie management screens I've seen lately are HORRIBLE. If you're gonna make me click on every single partner to opt out of their tracking, I'm just not gonna use your site.
If I can't do that on mobile in under a minute I simply close the website. So far nothing of value has really been lost.
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By staying at Facebook your friends are explicitly supporting these and other scummy actions. They have decided to hold their noses and prioritise themselves over humanity. Think less of them.
This is a totally inappropriate thing to ask of anyone. Please rethink your view on life. Edit: Also, that's not what "explicitly" means. I think you meant "implicitly".
Page 14: [edit: number corrected, thanks] > As the screenshots below illustrate, the Facebook GDPR popup requires users to go into “Manage data settings” to turn off ads based on data from third parties. If the user simply clicks “Accept and continue”, the setting is automatically turned on. This is not privacy by default. Beautiful! A minimal demonstration of a clear violation of the principal of data protection by…
"To personalise content, tailor and measure ads and provide a safer experience, we use cookies. By tapping on the site, you agree to our use of cookies on and off Facebook."
Agreeing to something by tapping anywhere on the site doesn't sound enforceable...
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I noticed Twitch is doing the same thing, if you "manage your choices" you get the banner to "manage your choices" on every page load, the only way to get rid of the banner was to "accept" which accepts everything. (I hope it was just a 'bug' but it didn't feel like it.) I don't get it though, if companies are so scared of being fined 4% of revenue that they put up these banners, aren't they inviting the worse end of…
The worst offender I've encountered is imgur.com, where "click here to manage your privacy settings" brings you to a page with literally hundreds of advertisers. About half are on "allowed" by default. If you want to disallow, you have to select each entry individually . The other half only specify "requires opt-out", apparently imgur expects you to contact some third party to do so. How on earth they expect to wease…
They reckon, perhaps correctly, that almost all websites weasel around the law and only very few of them will ever be fined.
Privacy activists will go after the big fish first and there will be time for the small sites to correct course once it becomes clear what is and isn't permitted.
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Note that Facebook still refuses to let you opt out of personalised advertising based on Facebook activity. This is the most blatant malcompliance with GDPR IMO, when will data protection authorities start fining FB?
> This is the most blatant malcompliance with GDPR IMO, when will data protection authorities start fining FB? The GDPR fans on HN have said over and over again that GDPR wouldn't result in instant fines, that companies would be given a warning and an opportunity to make changes. We'll soon find out if that's true or not.
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> This is the most blatant malcompliance with GDPR IMO, when will data protection authorities start fining FB? The GDPR fans on HN have said over and over again that GDPR wouldn't result in instant fines, that companies would be given a warning and an opportunity to make changes. We'll soon find out if that's true or not.
facebook made their changes, and failed. they’ve played their hand, now it’s time for the law to tell them what utter bull it is. do you think facebook is going to change anything from now? the point of “no instant fines” is to give companies a chance to change and develop their GDPR systems. if those systems are both complete, and in violation, why shouldn’t they be fined?
That is yet to be determined by the regulator and the courts. Facebook has made their changes. Now someone will complain to the regulator. Then the regulator will make a determination and maybe ask Facebook to make further changes. Then Facebook has another opportunity to comply. If they refuse to make those changes they will get fined and can go to court to fight the regulator's decision.
At least that is my understanding of how this system works.
Google and Facebook have developed this extremely invasive dystopic surveillance model and they are not going to abandon it. Its for users to abandon them.
SV and the entire culture is operating in a moral vacuum, and everyone here knows it. All the talk about freedom and liberty has been exposed as posturing and what we have instead are the biggest sellouts in history.
