Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tracking

Post by called_it » Wed, May 09, 2018, 4:22 PM UTC

ars wrote: post #25

gonmf wrote: post #17

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There is no legal right to Facebook, but if Facebook wants to do business here, it has to abide by our rules. And our rules are very simple, you cannot deny service because the user doesn't allow tracking if tracking is not necessary for your service to work. And it isn't in this case, it's only necessary to deliver higher paying ads. Since they are being selective on the users they accept based on being tracked, the…

And if higher paying ads are necessary for the service to work? Or do you foresee this being like drug prices, where the US subsidizes drug development for the world?

Post by tlrobinson » Wed, May 09, 2018, 4:22 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #63

ovao wrote: post #29

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It's disconcerting to me that under the GDPR, online businesses appear to be losing the ability to deny services to a user who knowingly, and with clear consent, chooses to take personal responsibility over the data they provide to said businesses. Regardless of whether this is for the "greater good", this is deeply unsettling territory.

You're not allow to operate that way in most other businesses anyway. You can't sell leaded paint, even if clearly marked. You can't sell unsafe cars, even if you tell people that even low speed impacts will kill them. There's a ton of stuff you can't do, even with clear consent, because otherwise people who lack the means to understand the compromises or afford the safer choices will suffer.

Post by Tharkun » Wed, May 09, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

icebraining wrote: post #59

ucaetano wrote: post #34

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"We require tracking to pay for the costs of providing this free service". No such thing as a free lunch.

Just because they chose a specific business model doesn't mean it's necessary. Nobody says the lunch must be free, just that not every avenue of funding is allowed.

Post by icebraining » Wed, May 09, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #69

znpy wrote: post #64

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I'm gonna guess that no, you can't. That's what I would expect from Facebook.

Greate, so now my account will just exist in some state of limbo...

Post by ucaetano » Wed, May 09, 2018, 4:23 PM UTC

icebraining wrote: post #59

ucaetano wrote: post #34

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"We require tracking to pay for the costs of providing this free service". No such thing as a free lunch.

Just because they chose a specific business model doesn't mean it's necessary. Nobody says the lunch must be free, just that not every avenue of funding is allowed.