Windows 10 is a total nightmare to those who value the control and privacy of what is supposed to be "their computer".
Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
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Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#72Oh boy, this happened to me despite using the enterprise edition. The system forced an upgrade, despite me doing everything to stop it, and every time the upgrade crashed and I had to roll back to the previous version. Every day. I spent a month like this, on an always-on system, trying to shut down the upgrade downloader from the task bar whenever I can after failing to stop it from settings, group policy, horsing a…
Yes. I've had this issue on almost every version of windows so far. As usual with Windows the only way to fix these issues is by reinstalling the operating system. After decades Microsoft still doesn't have a working update solution.
Compare this with most linux distributions. The updates can run in the background, the update process is often significantly faster and finishes in a few minutes and finally I don't need to reboot unless the kernel is updated.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#73Well, the good news is they haven't managed to get through to my (severely eviscerated) Win10 Enterprise system yet - the only Win10 system I run. Still, I guess it's time to finally block the relevant domains in the router to be safe.
After the next hardware upgrade, I'll finally be able to relegate Windows to a VFIO VM without network access. Looking forward to it more and more.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#74Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
I'm not sure the people are the problem. The problem is that microsoft pushes broken patches that simply do not work.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent. I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
It is akin to not getting your kid vaccinated based on rights to freedom. Your freedom ends where mine begins. And if your botnet infused Windows PC is going to fuck up my network, I'd say either get off the internet or get your Windows patched.
Except this "vaccine" really does cause autism, or the digital equivalent thereof.
Oh, and the doctor administers it by sneaking into your kid's bedroom with a needle in the middle of the night, coming in through a window if you locked the front door.
Other than that, yeah, perfect analogy.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#76Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
Oh yeah. Now when the "up"date stops disabling the computer's one and only graphics card (and mind you, this is a completely stock laptop, with all the usual "security" magic dust, without any user-messing around), we can talk about reenabling Windows Update. From here, it seems more like Windows "get yet another new computer you luser"date. (Hopefully the boxes with W7 won't catch yet another of the forced-WinX-upgrade "glitches")
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#77Good. People need to fucking update. Don’t be dumb.
Sometimes those computers are running critical medical equipment that fails on the latest update. There are good reasons not to update. Try and have a little bit of an open mind so that you are not being dumb.
For critical equipment, there's "lots of things that are not Windows" (1. too many moving parts is not a good thing, as demonstrated, 2. an office OS is not a good fit for such equipment anyway); if you insist on this particular kind of pain, there's Windows Embedded. (Yes, it costs extra, but ought to be more resilient and shouldn't suffer from the tribulations inflicted upon consumer versions; of course, the "ought" is still at MS's discretion)
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the OP is saying they are on a metered connection, and ran out of quota, so they had to go pony up more money in order to be able to finish their studies.
Yes clearly, but they should set it as metered in Windows, like here: https://i.imgur.com/Y71LI5F.png
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Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#79Aside from those running windows-exclusive software, I'm more and more boggled at the fact that some people still choose windows over other OSes. I couldn't imagine living with this sort of crap. To each their own, I guess
It's a really nice development ecosystem I'm told. Our developers write exclusively Windows software (games company) and even though it costs us multiple millions of dollars in software licenses to run dedicated servers, the "cost of porting" is high enough to prevent people from doing it.
No, it is not a nice development ecosystem. Visual studio is a good IDE for c++ and c# development. Eclipse is slightly better on Windows than on Linux. In Linux, the whole OS is development friendly.
Re: Microsoft again forced upgrades on Win10 PCs specifically set to block updates
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it your computer or Microsofts? Because I really think the language in Windows speaks to you as just the guest, while Microsoft is taking care of your needs like a parent. I guess I'm very hostile to that idea since I grew up in a time when my computer was my computer, not the property of an American software organization to decide for me what is best.
I am sympathetic to your stance - I don't like Microsoft overriding my decisions. My worry is that this stance will eventually lead to harsh penalties for operating unpatched software and getting hacked, and I feel that's not something most users would want. How do we reconcile these two competing problems? It doesn't seem fair to me to have all the power of ownership with none of the responsibility.
> eventually lead to harsh penalties for operating unpatched software and getting hacked
People have been saying this for years and there's never been any sign of it getting anywhere near a legislature. If someone's going to be made responsible it's going to be those that produced the product.