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Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
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Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Got some figures to back up that claim? http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/France/Unit...
First, you’re comparing to the United States which is a very high-crime developed country. Second, this data is before France let in zillions of refugees and other Arabs who commit far more crime than white French.
Race war and religious war are off topic on Hacker News. This amounts to trolling. Please don't do it again.
Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#73Do “dockless” bike hire systems actually work anywhere? There seem to have been so many stories like this. Docked systems seem to work really well (e.g. London), presumably because you can’t take a bike without leaving your credit card details.
Prague has Rekola.cz, a local company started from scratch. There's been some demand during the 5 years that it's been in service, and they cooperate with the city hall well, but the service is tiny and limited to city centre - we'll see what happens this year, with Ofo coming in.
Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#74For some reason nobody talks about the extreme nuisance of those bikes. Customers would just drop them literally anywhere : on the sidewalk blocking pedestrians, right in the middle of the street blocking cars, in front of building doors preventing people from entering, etc... Such a terrible nuisance, and something to be expected since there is such little room in the Parisian streets (you can’t seriously expect cus…
I am living in Lille, France, where Gobee.bike begun its French expansion. I am commuting by bike and as a cyclist I do agree with the comment above. Dockless bikes quickly became a nuisance, a few days after gobee.bike released their fleet. People left those bikes everywhere, including on pedestrian space and bicycle lanes. On a personal note : there is a well maintained and dock-based bike sharing system provided b…
I live in Lyon and I use (and love) the Velov system of docked bikes here. I was interested when the Gobee bikes arrived not too long ago and spotted a few around the city, but the convenience and numerical advantage of the Velov bikes meant I didn’t give them a try.
Velov works really well but there is a trade off. The local government gives away the rights to all the external advertising in the city to the company behind the Velov bikes. The company provides the bikes and, in turn, gets to on sell the advertising space on bus shelters, outdoor signs, pretty much everywhere in the city it seems. A little bit of competition would not be a bad thing, I think, though it would be hard for any competitor to overcome the advantages that a big advertising company like JCD has in terms of their revenues from the signage.
Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#75There's only so much space in cities. Getting rid of bikes is the wrong move. Cars take up so much more space and cause a plethora of negative effects. Interesting to see that this approach of vandalism is working. It's a shame people aren't physically strong enough to throw cars into rivers and from rooftops. Perhaps then Paris could be rid of its car problem.
Are you really suggesting Paris might be short on bicycles now?
(Parisian writing) Yes! We used to have plenty of Velib installations everywhere in the city and its suburbs. Now we have to wait for the new operator to have their system work. Even when the station is finished and has bikes on it, they aren't always usable.
Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#76This is not a huge surprise—China has very low rates of street crime, which is why the 'leave a bike anywhere' model isn't destroyed by vandalism. Increasingly, as Chinese companies try to expand abroad (valuations are so inflated in China that diversifying geographically is very tempting, much like 80s Japan), they are going to stumble a bit due to less familiarity with other societies, e.g. [1]. [1] https://www.nyt…
I think you have a warped impression of china.
Bike sharing in china: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYu4wzy9Lw
Re: Gobee.bike pulls out of France due to mass destruction of its bike fleet
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a lot of problems with fining someone after the fact. You have no proof that the last renter actually left the bicycle exactly like that (they may have left it neatly parked just a few metres away and someone purposely moved it), and the renter is quite likely to be a foreign tourist (fining them is near impossible without the benefit of a license plate like you have with a car).
You have no proof that the last renter actually left the bicycle exactly like that (they may have left it neatly parked just a few metres away and someone purposely moved it) How so? Gobee can just check where it was the moment the renter locked it. the renter is quite likely to be a foreign tourist (fining them is near impossible without the benefit of a license plate like you have with a car). Gobee uses digital pa…
the GPS on these is insanely inaccurate on all the systems we have locally. It barely waits to get a lock to save power, and is often off by half a block or more. It's never fine grained enough to tell which area of the sidewalk it was on
(I've talked to the people who move the bikes about this as well, since they have a hell of a time finding them sometimes)