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UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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They'll need this in Europe. Lots of cities are clamping down on pollution.

I'm working at an online supermarket called Picnic, in the Netherlands, and we deliver with small electric trucks. It works well in cities and suburban areas. People seem to like seeing the trucks in the neighborhoods compared to larger box trucks used by other delivery companies. It's small and quiet, which makes it less of a nuisance.

https://i.imgur.com/Howtq17.jpg

Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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It's a pity that the UK used to have a huge fleet of low-speed electric doorstep delivery trucks, devoted to milk and groceries; but they were all phased out just prior to the internet era.

...along with postmen on bicycles. The Royal Mail moved to hand pushed trolleys for health and safety reasons. I imagine how good that bike fleet would be today if they added electric assistance. Sure bicycles might not be great for the final mile delivery of someone's Amazon order of 50litres of mineral water but that is the point.

> The Royal Mail moved to hand pushed trolleys for health and safety reasons.

I think it's more likely that they moved to trolleys for cost, and gave the excuse that it was "health and safety".

Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Streetscooter's volume is 4 cubic meters, a single UPS truck is closer to 20 cubic meters. Saying they should just use Streetscooters is like telling a family of 5 to use a motorcycle.

Different markets have different requirements. The DHL streetscooters are a massive success and are drawing interest / demand from many companies outside of DHL. They kickstarted this when no major manufacturer was willing / able to provide them a solution. The platform seems to be scalable and will be able to provide bigger hulls as well. And they are somehow battle tested now as not all was smooth sailing after lau…

> Different markets have different requirements.

That's my point exactly.

> The platform seems to be scalable and will be able to provide bigger hulls as well.

The platform won't scale up 5x to meet UPS's needs, it will require a new platform which is what UPS is piloting.

Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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When EVs advertize 100 mile range, that means in the best conditions. Heavy loads would reduce that. Cold weather itself can make your range worse, and additionally any kind of heating or AC will reduce range further. I recently purchased an EV with a "100 mile range," and it so far hasn't achieved higher than a 70 mile range, given the cold weather, even with 100% charge, no climate control, and no real load. Turn o…

A UPS truck probably wouldn't need to turn on the interior heater -- those trucks usually have an open cab anyway, and the driver spends so much of their time outside the vehicle that it's probably not worth the effort.

Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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When EVs advertize 100 mile range, that means in the best conditions. Heavy loads would reduce that. Cold weather itself can make your range worse, and additionally any kind of heating or AC will reduce range further. I recently purchased an EV with a "100 mile range," and it so far hasn't achieved higher than a 70 mile range, given the cold weather, even with 100% charge, no climate control, and no real load. Turn o…

Which EV did you buy? I have a 2015 Tesla S 70D and the weather, heater, etc., don't seem to make as much difference as you say. But it is the only EV that I have any first hand knowledge of.

Mind you, the real range is nearer 200 miles so I rarely need to worry about running out. On a 10 A, 230 V, single phase connection (Norway) it will add more than 80 miles overnight (say 18:00 to 06:00) so it is perfectly practical for everyday use.

At a Tesla Supercharger it takes an hour to go from 20% to 80%, that is adding over 100 miles.

Re: UPS is working on a fleet of 50 custom-built electric delivery trucks

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When EVs advertize 100 mile range, that means in the best conditions. Heavy loads would reduce that. Cold weather itself can make your range worse, and additionally any kind of heating or AC will reduce range further. I recently purchased an EV with a "100 mile range," and it so far hasn't achieved higher than a 70 mile range, given the cold weather, even with 100% charge, no climate control, and no real load. Turn o…

Tesla seems to be the only company nowadays invested in developing an actually good electric vehicles I never understood why the other car companies insist in producing crappy EV products and yet so expensive for what they are worth. I wouldn't recommend buying an EV that is not Tesla.

What's wrong with Nissan Leaf or Hyundai Ioniq?
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