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Stride is just re-branded HipChat.
They're trying to say it's not while also saying it's an "upgrade". I guess it is a new major release of HipChat (with re-architecting) and re-branding. Same lead (Steve Goldsmith). Unless an insider tells, we won't know I guess :)
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I believe they are in the process of sunsetting HipChat. It was not successful.
They gave us a deadline to move (~2000 users). So we're just getting the Slack business case ready. If we have to move AND pay more money anyway, then why not just go to Slack?
If I was in charge of the decision for what communication tool to use at my company, I would take a long hard look at every single alternative to Slack.
I don't know what it is about Atlassian's branding but it always feels uncomfortably corporate to use any of their software. I'm worried that if I start using Atlassian software I'm going to have to buy inexpensive business-casual clothes, commute an hour and 15 minutes both ways, make small talk with Janet from accounting by the coffee machine while my mocha latte brews, and get Greg my middle-manager my self-assess…
The primary function of Atlassian software is to say "Access denied." You tell Greg he needs to give you permission to do whatever. Greg says he'll do that after he gets your self-assessment. He later writes on your self-assessment receipt that you're a whiner lacking self-motivation. I've used Confluence for two years. It's slow and the editor is buggy. The primary function is to prevent me from making a document pu…
Not only is that funny, it's pretty accurate. If it weren't for that requirement it could all be replaced with git, ftp, and email.
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Any sources on that? I'm pretty sure it's a heavy re-architecting at the very least, but if it's the same team and lead, have they gone entirely from scratch or repurposed some of Hipchat's code? (just questioning) Not curious enough to do the kind of blackbox exploration folks at https://webrtchacks.com or other sites do :)
I believe I am a pretty good source. :) Stride is a brand new product (not a rebrand of Hipchat), we did not repurpose Hipchat's code. It's built from ground up on Atlassian platform - new protocol, clients, platform, etc. One exception is the video bridge technology which remains powered by the Jitsi.org open source product (which we acquired in 2015). I do look after both products (Hipchat Cloud and Stride) for Atl…
I have an open ticket to have a profile option to disable it, but ...crickets.
I don't understand the point of all these stupid chat apps... Discord, Slack ect... If you need real time there is IRC. Otherwise, just setup a mailing list.
The problem with IRC is that you cannot get chat history of a channel unless you configure a bouncer to do it for you. On that note, what's your opinion on XMPP? We used to use a XMPP server for internal company communication and the server was configured to replay the chat history to a client when it connected.
> Otherwise, just setup a mailing list.
That has a similar problem to IRC which is that new members cannot easily access messages sent before they joined. A better option would be an internally hosted NNTP server.
I don't understand the point of all these stupid chat apps... Discord, Slack ect... If you need real time there is IRC. Otherwise, just setup a mailing list.
> If you need real time there is IRC. The problem with IRC is that you cannot get chat history of a channel unless you configure a bouncer to do it for you. On that note, what's your opinion on XMPP? We used to use a XMPP server for internal company communication and the server was configured to replay the chat history to a client when it connected. > Otherwise, just setup a mailing list. That has a similar problem t…
We have not been forced to migrate to Stride yet, but I am bummed about this can I keep kicking down the road.
I don't care how much better Stride is, Hipchat is good enough for us.
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I was really disappointed when noticed they didn't have a way to report bugs. They had some kind of "Suggestions box", so I used that to report mine: Images wouldn't upload correctly when the chat room name started wih a slash (/dev/null in my case). They deleted the ticket and a few days later it was magically fixed. You will find pretty annoyed people if you search for "report hipchat bug".
> "I'm annoyed they didn't use my wording. They did fix my bug but I'm still annoyed." In what world would one imagine that a suggestions box was in any way different from reporting a bug? "Suggestions box" is a bug report but renamed to be understood by Joan from accounting.
So you could try to get their attention to the bug of "when you paste XML into a code block, it replaces it with subtly different, broken XML, my suggestion is to stop doing that", but it's going to be sitting several pages beyond "please add a left shark emoji!!!"
You can try to get your whole office to stack the vote, but why? I only have to be one person to report a bug to Slack.
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> If you need real time there is IRC. The problem with IRC is that you cannot get chat history of a channel unless you configure a bouncer to do it for you. On that note, what's your opinion on XMPP? We used to use a XMPP server for internal company communication and the server was configured to replay the chat history to a client when it connected. > Otherwise, just setup a mailing list. That has a similar problem t…
Chat is ephemeral for quick back and forth discussion. If you need history, maybe you should be using email anyway.
Open protocols can certainly do this.