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Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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What happened to HipChat? It was already the same thing as Slack for less money.

I was really disappointed when noticed they didn't have a way to report bugs. They had some kind of "Suggestions box", so I used that to report mine: Images wouldn't upload correctly when the chat room name started wih a slash (/dev/null in my case). They deleted the ticket and a few days later it was magically fixed. You will find pretty annoyed people if you search for "report hipchat bug".

> "I'm annoyed they didn't use my wording. They did fix my bug but I'm still annoyed."

In what world would one imagine that a suggestions box was in any way different from reporting a bug? "Suggestions box" is a bug report but renamed to be understood by Joan from accounting.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Long time hipchat user here (both DC and Cloud), the rollout of Stride rubbed me all kinds of wrong ways. They 'replaced' HipChat w/ Strie but didn't keep many of the same features/integrations and then FORCED you to switch by a deadline. I get upgrades and progress, but how about rolling upgrade, swap out the client, move everyone over automatically and not pain your users? For my team, we said screw it and 'migrate…

Inaccurate.

Data center has not been sunset. https://www.stride.com/help-center/frequently-asked-question...

I also don't think anyone was forced to switch but I could be wrong. An email requesting or encouraging some action is different from being forced to do something.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any sources on that? I'm pretty sure it's a heavy re-architecting at the very least, but if it's the same team and lead, have they gone entirely from scratch or repurposed some of Hipchat's code? (just questioning) Not curious enough to do the kind of blackbox exploration folks at https://webrtchacks.com or other sites do :)

I believe I am a pretty good source. :) Stride is a brand new product (not a rebrand of Hipchat), we did not repurpose Hipchat's code. It's built from ground up on Atlassian platform - new protocol, clients, platform, etc. One exception is the video bridge technology which remains powered by the Jitsi.org open source product (which we acquired in 2015). I do look after both products (Hipchat Cloud and Stride) for Atl…

I love the decisions and actions features. I was wishing for those today in our project chat setup!

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any sources on that? I'm pretty sure it's a heavy re-architecting at the very least, but if it's the same team and lead, have they gone entirely from scratch or repurposed some of Hipchat's code? (just questioning) Not curious enough to do the kind of blackbox exploration folks at https://webrtchacks.com or other sites do :)

I believe I am a pretty good source. :) Stride is a brand new product (not a rebrand of Hipchat), we did not repurpose Hipchat's code. It's built from ground up on Atlassian platform - new protocol, clients, platform, etc. One exception is the video bridge technology which remains powered by the Jitsi.org open source product (which we acquired in 2015). I do look after both products (Hipchat Cloud and Stride) for Atl…

Stride looks first-rate. Hopefully opening up APIs will bring integration on-par with Slack. What's the plan for bringing Stride to self-hosted options?

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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post #52
post #49

Long time hipchat user here (both DC and Cloud), the rollout of Stride rubbed me all kinds of wrong ways. They 'replaced' HipChat w/ Strie but didn't keep many of the same features/integrations and then FORCED you to switch by a deadline. I get upgrades and progress, but how about rolling upgrade, swap out the client, move everyone over automatically and not pain your users? For my team, we said screw it and 'migrate…

Inaccurate. Data center has not been sunset. https://www.stride.com/help-center/frequently-asked-question... I also don't think anyone was forced to switch but I could be wrong. An email requesting or encouraging some action is different from being forced to do something.

I was just saying I have used DC in addition to Cloud. We migrated to cloud from DC about a year ago, and was forced to switch last week.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Long time hipchat user here (both DC and Cloud), the rollout of Stride rubbed me all kinds of wrong ways. They 'replaced' HipChat w/ Strie but didn't keep many of the same features/integrations and then FORCED you to switch by a deadline. I get upgrades and progress, but how about rolling upgrade, swap out the client, move everyone over automatically and not pain your users? For my team, we said screw it and 'migrate…

Ditto. Too little, too late.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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post #2

What happened to HipChat? It was already the same thing as Slack for less money.

It seems it stagnated. There wasn’t a real competitor to it until Slack turned up and developed a fantastic integration ecosystem (I don’t think there would be such a focus on conversational UI were it not for Slack, whether or not they intended that). By that time it was already too late, HipChat is old school, Slack is the new hotness. Anecdotally, anyone working in a startup with an opinion on design will know how…

Yeah, no kidding. My last company was up in arms to replace HipChat with Slack even though they were 99% identical. There hasn't been a significant innovation in chat technology in like 30 years yet the business sector is more frothy than ever.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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I don't know what it is about Atlassian's branding but it always feels uncomfortably corporate to use any of their software. I'm worried that if I start using Atlassian software I'm going to have to buy inexpensive business-casual clothes, commute an hour and 15 minutes both ways, make small talk with Janet from accounting by the coffee machine while my mocha latte brews, and get Greg my middle-manager my self-assess…

And here I am, sitting during my 1.5 hour commute, thinking about how I should buy some more work-appropriate casual clothes because no one else wears suits at this site, and what free or inexpensive software we could use to make a project team collaborate more effectively...

What other "enterprise ready" solutions are there for this purpose? My other options based on the team's familiarity with them are are O365 (SharePoint/Outlook/Teams + MS Project), ServiceNow (I guess?), or HP PPM. I'd rather use something hosted because getting internal infrastructure is hard.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, Hipchat is missing a lot of features that Slack has.

That’s exactly the point, right? Slack turned up and offered more and HipChat didn’t respond in a meaningful way except to rewrite all their clients in JS. At that point they had a buggy client and fewer features, while Slack had an inefficient client with lots of features.

I was referring to the (weirdly opposed) example they mentioned with the better-looking-fewer-features.
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