Baltimore Cops Kept Toy Guns to Plant Just in Case They Shot an Unarmed Person

Post by Density » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 12:54 PM UTC

fao_ wrote: post #26

chatmasta wrote: post #13

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For which part? Have you missed the whole “fake news” fiasco? People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. Rather than approaching articles with a healthy skepticism and critical thinking, many people are consuming content based on what “team” the author seems to be advocating for. Instead of asking questions like, “what is the author’s agenda?” or “does this author…

> People will upvote and share any article that reinforces their existing beliefs and world view. People do that with accredited news already. For example, in communist circles there is some groups that believe that no matter what, everything that Stalin did was justified. They will bring up no amount of obscure scholars, and disregard large amounts of citations from modern scholars and new evidence to protect this w…

Post by weberc2 » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 12:56 PM UTC

mikepurvis wrote: post #31

ckastner wrote: post #24

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The article is about a sub-group of these people, but the tone to me as well was one of sweeping generalizations. Edit (instead of replying to all of the individual replies): I'll be the first to acknowledge that there are systemic problems in police forces worldwide, just like there are systemic problems in any large organization, especially one endowed which so much executive power. However, any argument that paint…

Any member of the force, its leadership, or the surrounding politicians who is not 100% supporting the investigation and calling for heads to roll, is complicit. If that's a large enough group, then a sweeping generalization is absolutely warranted. "Bad apple" arguments only work if there's actual evidence of "good apples" working to expel the bad ones.

Post by guildwriter » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 12:56 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #67

ralusek wrote: post #40

Body cams on police and actual consequences for misconduct. Some of the videos of people (of all colors) being unlawfully murdered have led to absolutely zero consequence for those responsible. Those with authority granted by the public should have HIGHER accountability and more severe consequences, not be able to subvert them altogether. It's not difficult to imagine the level of misconduct that is likely occurring…

> which differs sharply from the actual data on race/crime/police lethal force Can you show me the data set that breaks down police killings by race of the killed person please? Or can you even point me to the dataset that just lists all police killings?

Post by pjc50 » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 12:57 PM UTC

arethuza wrote: post #20

jopsen wrote: post #16

Why not clean house? At this point I can't imagine the local community, particularly minorities, have any trust in the authorities. Isn't that failure, why not train a new police force with new uniforms and then phase out the old?

That's pretty much what happened in Northern Ireland as part of the Good Friday Agreement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Service_of_Northern_Ire...

Post by Jotra7 » Thu, Feb 01, 2018, 12:59 PM UTC

rburhum wrote: post #68

Although this is a topic that is easy to get angry about, I can't honestly trust anything that I read from theroot.com since I have seen many articles that are just racially charged and completely biased. Just a few days ago, they posted something about the ousting of London Breed here in SF ( https://www.theroot.com/london-breed-had-a-clean-shot-at-bec... ). The problem with that article, is that it blames the ousti…