I feel like all large companies run into this wall eventually. The 'head' loves to talk about welcoming competition and capitalism and all that, but the 'body' acts as-if it hates a level playing field. They tie unrelated products, predatory pricing, bundle their browser into random installers to trick people into installing it, pay other companies for preferential treatment, lock you into their platform, act like a bully, and do everything except letting individual products succeed or fail on their own merits in a free market.
Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
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Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Are Europeans not upset" I'm happy the regulators are not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. I'm happy that, to some extent, regulators are trying to make sure large foreign tech companies respect my privacy. If that means we lose Google I think you're overestimating how big of a deal that would be. I use DDG for search, iCloud for email/calendar/contacts, Safari as my desktop browser, BB…
Wait you don't use google for searching?!?!?! Or gmail? I am in awe.
What could gmail possibly give me that a server with postfix, dovecot and roundcube can not?
Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#73As it should be. I wonder why the EU isn't putting more scrutiny on the app store.
Apple's market share is too low. There's no doubt that the world would be a better place if we stood up against abuse of power on all fronts, but the laws as they stand allow apple to abuse their power with impugnity.
Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Are Europeans not upset" I'm happy the regulators are not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. I'm happy that, to some extent, regulators are trying to make sure large foreign tech companies respect my privacy. If that means we lose Google I think you're overestimating how big of a deal that would be. I use DDG for search, iCloud for email/calendar/contacts, Safari as my desktop browser, BB…
>> not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. And yet you use iCloud and Amazon?
Could you make your point more clearly? Google is potentially breaking laws and being investigated for that. If Amazon or Apple are suspected of breaking those laws they should also be investigated.
Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#75"Don't be evil." -- Google, early 2000's [1] [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil Edit: Despite the strong HN bias I will keep this comment.
Are people just downvoting this because they think Europe is in the wrong?
Quoting something everyone in this community already knows adds nothing to the discussion. Its interesting that the commenter appears to think the downvotes are a result of some other kind of bias.
Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. And yet you use iCloud and Amazon?
Could you make your point more clearly? Google is potentially breaking laws and being investigated for that. If Amazon or Apple are suspected of breaking those laws they should also be investigated.
Do you think that abuses of power which result in the violation of laws are the only kinds of abuses of power that matter?
Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win
#77Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…
>> "Are Europeans not upset" I'm happy the regulators are not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. I'm happy that, to some extent, regulators are trying to make sure large foreign tech companies respect my privacy. If that means we lose Google I think you're overestimating how big of a deal that would be. I use DDG for search, iCloud for email/calendar/contacts, Safari as my desktop browser, BB…
Are you also happy having to pay for services like Google Maps, which everyone else can get for free - because some French Maps company thinks it's unfair they can't make as much money as Google can?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/feb/03/google-fi...
If so, enjoy getting nickled and dimed for literally everything in the future.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "Are Europeans not upset" I'm happy the regulators are not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. I'm happy that, to some extent, regulators are trying to make sure large foreign tech companies respect my privacy. If that means we lose Google I think you're overestimating how big of a deal that would be. I use DDG for search, iCloud for email/calendar/contacts, Safari as my desktop browser, BB…
Are you also happy having to pay for services like Google Maps, which everyone else can get for free - because some French Maps company thinks it's unfair they can't make as much money as Google can? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/feb/03/google-fi... If so, enjoy getting nickled and dimed for literally everything in the future.
1. That ruling actually makes sense. If we don't prevent price wars smaller companies don't have any possibility of competing with larger companies and consumers lose in the end due to lack of competition.
>> "If so, enjoy getting nickled and dimed for literally everything in the future."
2. Since when did having to pay for something you use become 'getting nickled and dimed'??
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3. Look at it this way. Were you fine with Microsoft giving IE away with Windows? Other browser developers couldn't compete because Microsoft used its dominance in OS and the fact it didn't need to charge for a browser to put other browser developers out of business and we as consumers suffered. This is the same thing. Google is the dominant search engine. When I search for an address they should me a map on the right of the screen. They promote their maps with a link at the top of the search. And their product is free. Seems pretty similar the MS in the 90's to me.