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Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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Headphones are the big benefactor here, for me at least. I can walk to the kitchen with my wireless headphones.

Agree, I look forward to the day I can leave my iPhone in a gym locker and work out with just headphones

Aren't they often made out of metal and act like a faraday cage thus?

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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As a matter of fact "more range" is quite the opposite of what I want from Bluetooth. Do I really need to have 5000 keyboards within range of my computer at the office, instead of the 100 I already have? I definitely do not.

Headphones are the big benefactor here, for me at least. I can walk to the kitchen with my wireless headphones.

The problem though is the Sun will negatively affect Bluetooth range. If you're inside it's great and you can go into multiple rooms depending on the materials / wall thickness between you and the device. Once you go outside on a sunny day if the phone isn't directly in the line-of-sight (and even then) you'll get constant disconnects. Using multiple headsets / headphones and phones (including iPhone and multiple Androids) and I have yet to have one that DIDN'T do this.

More range may help thing. Well I can hope anyway.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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So much negativity about bluetooth in these comments ... and yet I can happily say that bluetooth has really changed my life. Bluetooth headphones allow me to walk around and exercise without an annoying cord trailing the length of my body. And I can get to the office and sit down with my mouse and keyboard and just start typing without plugging anything at all in. While it certainly had early problems, I'm super happy with it these days and especially the increase in bandwidth will be very welcome.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Headphones are the big benefactor here, for me at least. I can walk to the kitchen with my wireless headphones.

The problem though is the Sun will negatively affect Bluetooth range. If you're inside it's great and you can go into multiple rooms depending on the materials / wall thickness between you and the device. Once you go outside on a sunny day if the phone isn't directly in the line-of-sight (and even then) you'll get constant disconnects. Using multiple headsets / headphones and phones (including iPhone and multiple And…

The Sun affects the range? How and why, that doesn't make sense at all?

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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I have a Nexus 6p, which I connect to my car via Bluetooth for music and navigation. The dropped audio, stutters, and need to reconnect are driving me crazy. I've now switched back to a generic audio cable. Bluetooth reliability really is dire, the phone is within 10m of wherever the car transceiver is and in the designed hotspot too (inside the car) and it still fails.

That problem seems to be specific to Android. I had Samsung ATIV S, which did not have this problem at all (Win Phone). However both S3 and Nexus 6 have it. The later I bought in part to make it go away at least partially:(

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Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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That's nice, but the biggest UX problem with Bluetooth is still the pairing misery. It's 2016 and it's still nearly impossible to use any one Bluetooth device with multiple other devices. Try switching a Bluetooth headset from an iPhone to a Mac or convincing your car to switch from one phone to another. It's a huge mess and its not just a matter of the technology not working as designed. These are fundamental proble…

Apple’s stylus has a pretty effective and reliable pairing method: just briefly plug it into the tablet.

Too bad this method can’t be more generally used.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Headphones are the big benefactor here, for me at least. I can walk to the kitchen with my wireless headphones.

Agree, I look forward to the day I can leave my iPhone in a gym locker and work out with just headphones

I'd highly recommend getting a tiny mp3 player (say Clip Zip, though they are now discontinued...) and a short light headphone cable. Why send audio wirelessly when the tech to play it is as small as the receiver?

There are also headphones with built in players, I don't know how the quality of those is though.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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The problem though is the Sun will negatively affect Bluetooth range. If you're inside it's great and you can go into multiple rooms depending on the materials / wall thickness between you and the device. Once you go outside on a sunny day if the phone isn't directly in the line-of-sight (and even then) you'll get constant disconnects. Using multiple headsets / headphones and phones (including iPhone and multiple And…

The Sun affects the range? How and why, that doesn't make sense at all?

> How and why, that doesn't make sense at all?

Not sure. I remember reading an article some time ago that stated the Sun's electromagnetic radiation could interfere with Bluetooth and it's always worked with my observations. I've used multiple Plantronics headsets, Motorola headphones and an off brand of headphones all with an iPhone 5S, iPhone 6+, Nexus 6P, Moto X and a Note 3 and in all of these devices they work great indoors and going outside on a sunny day it would break up (but cloudy always seemed to work better).

It's entirely possible this is some crazy bullshit but my observations are real. So if it ends up being that the Sun does NOT provide interfere then it must be SOMETHING. I just had this issue this past week when I was working outside and had to grab my wired headphones.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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post #58
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Nexus 6p, which I connect to my car via Bluetooth for music and navigation. The dropped audio, stutters, and need to reconnect are driving me crazy. I've now switched back to a generic audio cable. Bluetooth reliability really is dire, the phone is within 10m of wherever the car transceiver is and in the designed hotspot too (inside the car) and it still fails.

That problem seems to be specific to Android. I had Samsung ATIV S, which did not have this problem at all (Win Phone). However both S3 and Nexus 6 have it. The later I bought in part to make it go away at least partially:(

Indeed, they made a mess of it twice - right around when BlueZ finally got good, they switched to a different stack on Android 4.2 and broke everything again.

Re: Bluetooth 5 will quadruple the range, double the speed

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That's nice, but the biggest UX problem with Bluetooth is still the pairing misery. It's 2016 and it's still nearly impossible to use any one Bluetooth device with multiple other devices. Try switching a Bluetooth headset from an iPhone to a Mac or convincing your car to switch from one phone to another. It's a huge mess and its not just a matter of the technology not working as designed. These are fundamental proble…

Apple’s stylus has a pretty effective and reliable pairing method: just briefly plug it into the tablet. Too bad this method can’t be more generally used.

Apple Magic Trackpad 2/Mouse/Keyboard do work this way.
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