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After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Many users on the same IP, IP is registered to a cloud hosting company, etc. They'll never have perfect detection but you can do pretty well without much effort.

Startup idea, airbnb of VPNs. Normal people distributing a limited number of other peoples, VPNs for a small fare.

That is pretty much how Hola works. Except that most Hola users don't even know that they contribute their bandwidth.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Simple: They sold exclusive rights in quite a few countries to TV networks before they expanded there.

Not disagreeing, but it still seems odd as the Netflix Original Content is the big carrot to get people hooked into their ecosystem.

I can only assume they didn't plan to expand this quickly and would have lost a lot of money by adding "in case we are in this market by then" clauses to the contracts. But yes, it certainly leaves a strange impression.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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What exactly does Netflix stand to gain from making it harder for its non-american subscribers to VPN the geoblocked content? Surely they must have predicted a substantial drop in subscription rates as soon as people realize they can't watch the good stuff. It just seems like international-marketshare suicide.

My guess is that Netflix has now positioned themselves as the first global 'television' network. They hopefully have enough power and leverage to stop the content producers from stupidly restricting access via region, but they're not able to do this effectively if users can easily bypass the restrictions. If it doesn't work out then at least they'll get a global audience for their own content and the rest will go bac…

They don't even have a global audience for their own content - House of Cards isn't available in many countries because Netflix sold the TV networks exclusive distribution.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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I've been rather stunned at how no one has come up with a strong workaround to this yet. It's really quite simple, we just need slick, easy-to-use software for it. Make software that both turns your home computer into a single-user VPN server, that lets you set the maximum upload bandwidth to ~5mbit/s or so, and lets you only pass through Netflix content; and also gives you a VPN client that lets you connect to anoth…

Or: go to private tracker, hit download button, wait 60 seconds.

Don't pay $10/mo to some random, don't pay $10/mo for HD netflix subscription.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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It was ten years ago. I believe this has changed since then…

It cannot be changed. You can download (watch) any proprietary content (if you can), but you cannot redistribute it to others.

Canada signed the TPP, which tadically changes things

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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We're in Canada and have been cable cutters for almost five years now. We've gotten by on Netflix US and YouTube with the occasional pirated streaming site, but we're barely ever using Netflix anymore. We've turned to Kodi. We don't want to pirate, but it's hard to make a compelling argument against it when you get everything you want even easier than torrents. Add to that the abusive monopolies of Shaw and Bell, who…

What's wrong with Bell/Saw/Rogers having their own streaming services? I've found Bell's Crave TV to be pretty good, Shomi not as much.

May I ask what you don't like about Shomi? Is it the content?

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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I ended up having the conversation with a co-worker...I live in Canada, and anyone who lives up here can back me up on the fact that this country is just awful with regards to its copyright litigation with regards to television, especially. It's far, far easier for me to pirate content than it is to legally buy it. Until that's the case, I'm not interested in forking over my money to be inconvenienced (and this is co…

Wait, you are justifying an illegal action of yours because it is easier than the legal route? Since when doing the right thing is and should always be easier... So, do you also not pay income tax because it is much easier to not do so? There are countless examples where being illegal is easier over legal, but as a society some of us understand that if the majority respect the law and order, we are much better off.

I'm Canadian, and I certainly don't back you up on this. I use Netflix, Crave, my providers VoD service, independent and mainstream theaters to consume content all the time. When I realize I've spent more then I should on entertainment, I simply find other stuff to do or consume.

Is it really about being "easier" and not about being cheap? Personally, I find it quite easy to swipe my credit card or link it to a Google Play account.

I am amazed to read this under the caption of articles picture: "Netflix customer Susan Lorenz of Toronto doesn't understand why the company is suddenly shutting her out from the content she used to be able to see." ... Susan most certainly understands why.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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post #52

What exactly does Netflix stand to gain from making it harder for its non-american subscribers to VPN the geoblocked content? Surely they must have predicted a substantial drop in subscription rates as soon as people realize they can't watch the good stuff. It just seems like international-marketshare suicide.

I'm guessing it had to do with pressure from international rights-holders.
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