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After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by kejaed »

thrusong wrote: post #33

We're in Canada and have been cable cutters for almost five years now. We've gotten by on Netflix US and YouTube with the occasional pirated streaming site, but we're barely ever using Netflix anymore. We've turned to Kodi. We don't want to pirate, but it's hard to make a compelling argument against it when you get everything you want even easier than torrents. Add to that the abusive monopolies of Shaw and Bell, who…

What's wrong with Bell/Saw/Rogers having their own streaming services? I've found Bell's Crave TV to be pretty good, Shomi not as much.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by zamalek »

[deleted] wrote: post #32
zamalek wrote: post #15

The same effect is occurring in South Africa. People I know are switching back to piracy because our Netflix catalog is probably in the region of 10% of America (for the same reasons, as well as others). After years of not being able to legally access some copyrighted content, with no discussion and no change, I honestly don't see the copyright holders backing down - strange considering that they are the only ones ac…

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* Unshaped and uncapped copper is also available. I'm paying about USD100/mo for this at 10Mbps. Hellkom is "balancing" my line to 6Mbps, but that somehow still caters for two concurrent Netflix streams.

* Soft-capped (or uncapped shaped) copper is now available for much lower prices, even at 10Mbps.

* Copper bandwidth limits are much higher. For example, 200GB for something like USD15/mo.

* Fiber is being rolled out. Slightly more expensive than ADSL and very difficult to get hold of as you need to acquire a specific amount of business in your area.

* Mobile data remains a pathetic joke. I wouldn't risk using it for streaming: out-of-bundle it would cost over USD1000 to stream a single HD movie on MTN.

It's still not acceptable (even Zimbabwe is far cheaper) but has drastically improved. Most people I know have an account with one of the streaming services.

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by thinkMOAR »

dogma1138 wrote: post #39
thinkMOAR wrote: post #37

Wonder when the first person stands up and claim this is blatant racism/ discrimination. Because it literally is. 'oh you come from this country and you have netflix? -- oops then you cannot see because you are canadian/european/ whoever' Media copyrightrights per country, its 2016 its insane release your media globally or don't release it at all.

Don't blame Netflix blame those countries because they are the ones which prevent titles from being released as they have local companies that bought the distribution rights.

The topic of this thread is Netflix, and i have personal experience with these limits of netflix, hence i referred to them. Though it applies to all such parties. And netflix being the biggest could certainly 'make a fist' and get some stuff done.

And since Netflix is such a big party, they have blame too.

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Post by [deleted] »

thrusong wrote: post #33

We're in Canada and have been cable cutters for almost five years now. We've gotten by on Netflix US and YouTube with the occasional pirated streaming site, but we're barely ever using Netflix anymore. We've turned to Kodi. We don't want to pirate, but it's hard to make a compelling argument against it when you get everything you want even easier than torrents. Add to that the abusive monopolies of Shaw and Bell, who…

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Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by etatoby »

superuser2 wrote: post #9
cylinder wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

are there VPN out there where you can purchase a static IP of your own for it?

You can run your own VPN server on a VPS, but Netflix is (rumored to be) blocking the IP address ranges of DigitalOcean, Linode, AWS, etc.

I tried proxying through a server in Germany (in a big, well known hosting provider) and I got the same message, both with ssh -D and pptpd.

So they're either reading signatures left on the packets by various VPN / proxy technologies (fragmentation and other obscure metrics), or they're blocking the IP ranges of major hosting providers, or both.

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Post by rhino369 »

themartorana wrote: post #27
sgift wrote: post #25

The only reason I subscribed to Netflix was that it was the best way to get Warehouse 13, which I really wanted to see at the time. For now Netflix still has enough content to satisfy me, but the idea that the library is so much smaller here in Germany than in the U.S. was never to my liking .. Greedy companies force Netflix to block customers, customers pirate content instead, all loose. One would think Hollywood le…

It's never been well explained to me how this is a profitable model, especially considering the ease with which popular shows are pirated - in full HD and digital sound I might add. What do studios really stand to gain by keeping Germany et al from so much content?

Why is everyone assuming that greedy German companies aren't willing to sell? Is it also possible that Netflix isn't willing to pay the going rate or hasn't bothered to negotiate for the rights.

Netflix launched globally without taking the time to negotiate content for most countries on earth. I'm not sure you can assume that Netflix is being diligent in trying to acquire content.

Especially since even in the USA netlix appears to be pivoting into being a content creator instead of a content aggregator.

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Post by lostgame »

I ended up having the conversation with a co-worker...I live in Canada, and anyone who lives up here can back me up on the fact that this country is just awful with regards to its copyright litigation with regards to television, especially.

It's far, far easier for me to pirate content than it is to legally buy it.

Until that's the case, I'm not interested in forking over my money to be inconvenienced (and this is coming from a dude who buys his music mainly on vinyl).

Re: After Netflix crackdown on border-hopping, Canadians ready to return to piracy

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Post by rhino369 »

cdnsteve wrote: post #46

Content geofencing makes no sense. Until businesses realize this people will always find ways around it.

It makes a lot of sense for the world we live in now. Most revenue from TV is still captured by regular broadcast or cable viewership. Those means of distribution are typically geofenced.

If you have an American show, Sky or BBC will pay more than Netflix will.

Plus, people in developing countries can't and won't pay western prices for content. It makes sense to geofence and then sell it to them much cheaper.

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Post by sjwright »

omegant wrote: post #28
superuser2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many users on the same IP, IP is registered to a cloud hosting company, etc. They'll never have perfect detection but you can do pretty well without much effort.

Startup idea, airbnb of VPNs. Normal people distributing a limited number of other peoples, VPNs for a small fare.

Good idea, except most consumer internet connections don't have sufficiently fast upstream performance.
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