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At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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The rise in gluten allergies is what jumps to my mind. I've heard a lot of people deny they exist though. And I'm sure other people will claim they are attributed to different factors. A lot of people with gluten allergies can eat older strains of wheat that haven't changed since the early half of the century. The theory is that these are strains from before GMO time and were also not subjected to heavy selective bre…

A rise in gluten allergies? This is news to me. Is there anything published that you can cite?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-race-celiac-gluten-...

Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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In my area, I see some chefs at the weekly farmer's market buying meat, fish, and produce directly from local farmers. To me, that is 'farm to table'. Anything else is questionable, but could be. I believe buying from wholesale distributors would be the opposite of farm to table.

Part 2 of the article suggests that buying at the farmers' market is no guarantee: http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2016/food/farm-to-fable/far...

One time I saw a farmer's market stall being set up. The people were taking produce out of bags that looked a lot like what they sell at Costco, and repackaging it into cute little bundles and crates. (NOT trying to say that they all do this)

Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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A great bit of journalism here, hopefully it reaches a lot of eyes. I think that the fines levied on restaurants that are knowingly deceiving their customers should be much higher. The articles states $300 is the fine for first-time offenders, this is hardly much of a deterrence considering the premiums placed on 'locally sourced' dishes. If you want to get a good feel of how much proper locally grown food is, pop in…

>It costs £15/$21 for a single t-bone, but man is it worth it.

I've had plenty of local meat, and I'm in a rural setting known for its farming. I'm skeptical.

I'd love to see this actually tested, because I think this is an alternate view of the article; the "hipster" crowd is so keen on getting locally sourced food because it just tastes oh-so-much better (and they're more than happy to tell you). Half the time they're not even eating locally sourced food.

The global food supply chain is pretty amazing. Why do we assume that Joe Schmoe farmer down the road is automatically "better" at food production? Outside of the fact that some produce can lose nutrition in transport, I'd bet 90% of people couldn't tell the difference between garden fresh or grown-in-China...or that if they identified a difference they'd necessarily choose the former as a preference. Taste (in the literal sense) is a funny thing.

Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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A great bit of journalism here, hopefully it reaches a lot of eyes. I think that the fines levied on restaurants that are knowingly deceiving their customers should be much higher. The articles states $300 is the fine for first-time offenders, this is hardly much of a deterrence considering the premiums placed on 'locally sourced' dishes. If you want to get a good feel of how much proper locally grown food is, pop in…

> It costs £15/$21 for a single t-bone, but man is it worth it. I've had plenty of local meat, and I'm in a rural setting known for its farming. I'm skeptical. I'd love to see this actually tested, because I think this is an alternate view of the article; the "hipster" crowd is so keen on getting locally sourced food because it just tastes oh-so-much better (and they're more than happy to tell you). Half the time the…

You're asking why Joe Schmoe's cows from a local field taste better than those of a factory feedlot standing shoulder-to-shoulder in their own muck?

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yes, it is worth it, and ... the cost of a high quality steak reflects how often you should probably be eating steak. i.e. not very often.

I don't agree that the cost of food reflects how often we should eat it. See: seafood, rare spices, berries, nuts.

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Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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> modern human medicine seems to include techniques that are similar to or just-short-of "GMO." I think that is actually the root of the problem for some people, including me. I have seen what modern medicine does to people. "You cholesterol is too high, take this statin and your number will get better. Don't take it and you will have a heart attack". And then you have family members and friends take the drugs, and s…

i've had doctors surprised that i refused to take opiates to treat some pain. and what do you know, there was an alternative medication that was way less harmful, and only required a $25 shot. it's fucking ridiculous how hard they push expensive pills.

It is. But also a lot of people really want a pill. They don't pay to go to the doctor to hear "Your knees will stop hurting if you lose 100 pounds"

Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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> modern human medicine seems to include techniques that are similar to or just-short-of "GMO." I think that is actually the root of the problem for some people, including me. I have seen what modern medicine does to people. "You cholesterol is too high, take this statin and your number will get better. Don't take it and you will have a heart attack". And then you have family members and friends take the drugs, and s…

I'd be fine with buying GMO food if the genome were FLOS, in fact I think we should mandate all organisms sold for food should have an FLOS genome. I think GMO is a critical tool to solving the climate and population growth problems we face.

I would have no problems with people advertising (truthfully) that a given GMO is FLOS. I have not a lot of knowledge in this area, does such a thing exist? I know government does some breeding work (UIUC had the famed morrow plots), but I haven't heard much about research of GMOs and release into the wild.

Based on what the average person cares about FLOS software, I am not holding my breath.

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> modern human medicine seems to include techniques that are similar to or just-short-of "GMO." I think that is actually the root of the problem for some people, including me. I have seen what modern medicine does to people. "You cholesterol is too high, take this statin and your number will get better. Don't take it and you will have a heart attack". And then you have family members and friends take the drugs, and s…

Sorry for the free plug for a guy who comes off as (and in many ways is) a crank, but that's almost verbatim the health policy preferred by Nicholas Taleb (of Black Swan /Anti-fragile fame): - Be very conservative in what foods/medicines you use, limiting yourself to those with a proven track record. - Ignore warnings about specific figures (e.g. cholesterol, blood pressure) if you're otherwise healthy and active. -…

I have not heard this from him, I am looking into it now :)

I am not really following a specific food religion, but mashing together various things I have experienced or have thought about.

Re: At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction

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Great article. Not hacker news.

I disagree. From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. I think many hackers (myself included) find this interesting.

Me too!
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