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China Deploys Missiles on Disputed Island in South China Sea

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Re: China Deploys Missiles on Disputed Island in South China Sea

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Maybe by the US thug of a government?

Yes, a thug that has to spend all of its military money defending other countries..so they can throw it back in their face that they don't spend as much on the military. Without the US, the world would be fucked.

Everyone knows that but they would rather pretend that China and the US are equally bad for political correctness.

Re: China Deploys Missiles on Disputed Island in South China Sea

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It certainly doesn't help that Europe, particularly France, has spent the past two decades selling China the weapons and tech to do the invasion. That said, Taiwan is a country of roughly similar population and economic clout as Australia. Standing by and ignoring an act of war on that scale would be devastating to international stability (and US security interests).

I would imagine that the precedent the US would set with not honoring is defense agreement would have enormous repercussions for its relationship and bargaining power with both South Korea and Japan. That would tip the balance towards US intervention.

If the US and NATO in general let Taiwan fall, it would pretty much guarantee Japan, Korea, Malaysia and Thailand to start nuclear programs.

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Ron Paul's take on this from few month ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KudfRyn3ZbA interesting to watch it now, where will this lead to, and what is the strategic goal here?

The problem with the powers that be playing the ultra-nationalist card is that is difficult to stop playing; like gambling or burying corporate debt it might lead to short term gains, but sooner or later you have to pay. There are ample examples of ultra-nationalist states that have exploded, imploded, or withered on the vine; and none have lasted the distance with out some kind of revolution, quiet or otherwise. Things will get worse before they get better, this is definitely not the bottom of the barrel. You can tell the wise ones are already cashing in their chips and are exfiltrating their wealth. Loans that were once prime will become sub-prime once the capital has fled. These state financed, but often personally influenced, loans that are currently sub-prime; well...

Re: China Deploys Missiles on Disputed Island in South China Sea

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I would imagine that the precedent the US would set with not honoring is defense agreement would have enormous repercussions for its relationship and bargaining power with both South Korea and Japan. That would tip the balance towards US intervention.

If the US and NATO in general let Taiwan fall, it would pretty much guarantee Japan, Korea, Malaysia and Thailand to start nuclear programs.

That's probably true. And if so, it means that it is probably not in China's interest to take Taiwan.

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Nope Victory for Tsai Ing-wen, head of a party promoting independence from China, will likely usher in uncertain relations between Taipei and Beijing http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/taiwan/121031... Foxconn (Taiwanese manufacturer for Apple) decision to invest a whopping $5 billion in India has caused unease in China as it marks the first top international firm opting for India amid a slowdown in the C…

Your GDP numbers are wrong. The gap is factor 2-3.

If you Google the GDP numbers, The GDP for the Republic of China (Taiwan) is $31,900USD and China is $6,800USD. ~4.7x.

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Wave if you're old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis!

Pretty well, actually. The Cleveland Plain Dealer (as I recall) showed Cleveland as within range of the missiles meant to be set up there.

In the 1980s I talked with a guy who had been a landing-craft driver for the Army in the early 1960s. His unit was sent down the Intercoastal Waterway to pick up an armored division in Florida. Fortunately for all, the tanks stayed on dry ground, and landing craft went back north.

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The internet tells me you're Canadian. That is close enough to have a bias. Look at the world from a different point of view, and you would understand that corruption is everywhere, not just in China. Some people are just better at hiding it.

> corruption is everywhere, not just in China If the famous US corruption cases, like Flint, have taught me anything, it's that corruption in US is on much lower level than in countries like Russia or China, and people and media are much, much less tolerant to it. Basically, Flint scandal could never happen in Russia because no one would ever give a fuck.

Flint is pretty damn low on the charts in terms of US corruption.

Re: China Deploys Missiles on Disputed Island in South China Sea

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Maybe by the US thug of a government?

Yes, a thug that has to spend all of its military money defending other countries..so they can throw it back in their face that they don't spend as much on the military. Without the US, the world would be fucked.

Gotta love that American exceptionalism.

I wonder what people did before the US existed? I imagine they were all hurtling towards some political, moral and cultural black hole.

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