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Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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But you have a lot more to go off here and the number of replies is limited to maybe a few thousand at most. It can quickly determine if it's a scheduling email, check your calendar, and generate responses like "I am available" and "I'm busy". For others it can be as simple as "I'll check it out and get back to you". Finally, if you are expected to review the automatically composed response or choose from several opt…

I'm talking about a slightly different problem. I'm not suggesting that you might accidentally click to send a reply you didn't want to share, so you reviewing it is beside the point. I'm suggesting that by mining all our emails, it might make a suggestion to me based on something you didn't want to share. E.g. Someone writes me an email about a rare kink you often talk about. You're the main data point on that kink,…

You could also do something like googlebombing. Have lots of people send each other the same question, and all of them reply with the same/similar response.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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I'm often amazed how Google still gives it staff this unique hacker-like approach to their million dollar projects. For example, the stuff in Google labs (gmail) has had some silly things like don't hit send when you're drunk but sometimes very useful features which may be considered unorthodox like "Gmail telling you when it thinks you wanted to attach a file but forgot". It's something I wouldn't generally associat…

> "Gmail telling you when it thinks you wanted to attach a file but forgot".

Sure, if you use the word thinks. If you instead say "if msg.Contains "attach" then warn" it's not that impressive.

The feature in the article is a bit more than a single if.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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You can anyways undo the sent message! A great feature of Inbox.

No you cannot, it is not part of the email protocol. Once it is sent, it is gone. I always have fun with those "Please delete messages" from Outlook sent to my email client.

Yes, that was a nice strong statement but you are wrong, and the other guy is right. When you send a message from Inbox, you can cancel it, for a few seconds. It doesn't bother actually sending it until the Undo button has disappeared.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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While the technology is very cool, this pushes me that much closer to a "dumber" email service. It's always a conflict for me as I love shiny new things, but I'd rather we let AI loose on someone else's email, especially when the AI's revenue stream is advertising (a business predicated on knowing as much as possible about your audience).

Did Google decide not to invite you over to interview in person? Perhaps you feel bad because of that.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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Why do you care if a computer reads through your email? Its not like Larry Page is looking through your search history. AI seems to just be data expressed in some way, ei me and you are a physical expression of years of gigabit streams of data. This will only become more strongly felt as we get closer to serious AI. Sadly I think its something you either get used to or go live in the woods.

Same argument as the NSA: "It's not surveillance until a human looks at the data"

Interesting point, but there's a potentially important, albeit somewhat subtle difference. Google collects data which they claim nobody will ever look at. The reason they collect lots of data is so that machines can look at all of it now, while the NSA collects lots of data because they think that a person might need to look at some of it in the future.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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> sometimes very useful features which may be considered unorthodox like "Gmail telling you when it thinks you wanted to attach a file but forgot". That one's not that hard. http://marc.info/?l=mutt-dev&m=95685122323646&w=2

Doing it with a low false positive rate (so that you can enable it for everyone without being annoying) is much harder. Also, Gmail has lots of users who speak languages other than English... has anyone tested whether the forgotten attachment detector works for them too?

Pretty sure it looks for the phrase "attach", it doesn't appear to be super sophisticated. Either way it works well.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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You can anyways undo the sent message! A great feature of Inbox.

No you cannot, it is not part of the email protocol. Once it is sent, it is gone. I always have fun with those "Please delete messages" from Outlook sent to my email client.

Gmail does not literally unsend SMTP messages. To give you time to undo, Gmail delays sending the message for a few seconds. So if you don't select "Undo" within the time limit, your message will be sent.

How to use: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1284885?hl=en

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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I'm talking about a slightly different problem. I'm not suggesting that you might accidentally click to send a reply you didn't want to share, so you reviewing it is beside the point. I'm suggesting that by mining all our emails, it might make a suggestion to me based on something you didn't want to share. E.g. Someone writes me an email about a rare kink you often talk about. You're the main data point on that kink,…

You raise a very important point. I'd hope that there is an actual finite (and relatively small) corpus of approved, manually white listed answers that transcend through Google accounts. You might get personalized options based on what you write most but they would not show for other people. Would that be enough to satisfy this concern?

Yes, it would. If curation is too troublesome for gathering a large enough training set, it might be possible to train a smaller curated network with a higher false-negative rate that flags responses that aren't appropriate (personal info, insults, etc) and removes those from the training set.

Re: Computer, Respond to This Email

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No you cannot, it is not part of the email protocol. Once it is sent, it is gone. I always have fun with those "Please delete messages" from Outlook sent to my email client.

Gmail does not literally unsend SMTP messages. To give you time to undo, Gmail delays sending the message for a few seconds. So if you don't select "Undo" within the time limit, your message will be sent. How to use: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1284885?hl=en

Note these instructions are for how to enable this on Gmail, the original. Inbox does this by default.
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