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Re: EFF is leaving X

#691
post #22

This reads as very performative. You don't have to choose between posting 10 times a day or deleting your account; you could just post less or use it for major updates.

Performative expression is critical. You need to actually do the thing you believe and if it is of political significance say it and do it visibly. Otherwise there is no impact.

There will not be any impact. + All activism is performative.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#692
post #663

Some context. Worth keeping in mind that Twitter/X is something like the 8th largest US-based social media site. Like it's ~1/6 the size of Facebook. It's in all probability smaller than Pinterest (we cannot get trustworthy numbers from Twitter/X). LinkedIn is 2x its size, and real people across a swath of society use it. Knocking Threads for the Instagram distribution is silly because part of the point of posting is…

BlueSky and Mastodon are much smaller than Twitter/X, and they're staying on the platforms, so this is a moot point.

Smaller platforms with more engagement? Entirely possible they reach more people on those platforms.

In any case, my point was more about the silly idea that it's imperative for any organization to be on the 8th-largest US site.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#693

If they justify it in terms of reach and impressions then say they will still be on BlueSky and Mastodon then you know it's purely ideological. Which is fine but just be honest about it.

Well if you look at their bullet points:

- Greater user control how is any of the other platforms they have no problem with any different than twitter?

- Real security improvements where is end to end encryption on all the other social media? And why do they need end to end encryption to broadcast a message to the public?

- Transparent content moderation wait, the EFF is now calling for more censorship?

The first two points are clearly nonsensical, only the third one has at least some logic. Though if the EFF has turned pro-censorship, I am having bad feeling for having given them money in the past.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#694
closed my Twitter/X account when Elon bought it. I was an early adopter of Twitter and a heavy user prior to that (in consuming if not posting). But it turns out I don't miss it. Freed up time (to read HN, LOL).

Re: EFF is leaving X

#695

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Of course they're ideological. That's the whole point of their existence. Anyway, > Twitter was never a utopia. We've criticized the platform for about as long as it’s been around. Still, Twitter did deserve recognition from time to time for vociferously fighting for its users’ rights. That changed. Musk fired the entire human rights team and laid off staffers in countries…

Twitter never cared about users rights. Read Matt Taibbi's congresional testimony on Twitter's censorship machine.

So it's OK now? Or it wasn't OK then or now?

You claim about fallacies later, but this is a also a fallacy.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#696
Gross and performative, and I say this as someone who detests X and has never used it... when they were writing this crap they could have instead been writing about the ridiculous operating system user age validation laws.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#697

If they justify it in terms of reach and impressions then say they will still be on BlueSky and Mastodon then you know it's purely ideological. Which is fine but just be honest about it.

“Purely moral” would be a more accurate way to put it.

“Ideological” in this context is what you say when you’re trying to deny that there’s moral dimension to the issue. Which you absolutely are.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#698

If they justify it in terms of reach and impressions then say they will still be on BlueSky and Mastodon then you know it's purely ideological. Which is fine but just be honest about it.

can you clarify what the ideology is and how they are not being honest about it

He means morality, but he doesn’t want to admit it.

Re: EFF is leaving X

#700
post #696

Gross and performative, and I say this as someone who detests X and has never used it... when they were writing this crap they could have instead been writing about the ridiculous operating system user age validation laws.

EFF Launches Age Verification Hub as Resource Against Misguided Laws (December 10, 2025)

~ https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-launches-age-verifica...

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