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https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/john-schulman

Is the quote you're thinking of the one at 19:11? > I don't think it's going to happen next year, it's still useful to have the conversation and maybe it's like two or three years instead. This doesn't seem like a super definite prediction. The "two or three" might have just been a hypothetical.

Right at the end of the interview Schulman says that he expects AGI to be able to replace himself in 5 years. He seemed a bit sheepish when saying it, so hard to tell if he really believed it, or if was just saying what he'd been told to say (I can't believe Altman is allowing employees to be interviewed like this without telling them what they can't say, and what they should say).

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Who is going to decide what are a worthy uses of our precious green energy sources?

An efficient market where externalities are priced in. We do not have that. The cost of energy is mis-priced, although we are limping our way to fixing that. Paying the likely fair cost for our goods, will probably kill a lot of current industries - while others which are currently viable, will become viable.

You are dodging the question down another layer.

Who gets decide what the real impact price of energy is? That is not easily defined and well debated.

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There's another comment saying something sort of similar elsewhere in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40396366 What made you think it was the next Enron five years ago? I appreciate you having the guts to stand up to them.

First, thank you for probably being the first person to recognize in print that it wasn’t easy to stand up to these folks in public, plenty have said things like “you’re fighting the good fight” in private, but I think you’re the first person to in any sense second the motion in my personal case, so big ups on having the guts to say it too. I’ve never been a YC-funded founder myself, but I’ve had multiple roommates w…

Don’t forget WorldCoin!

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Indeed. I’ve heard first hand accounts that would make it impossible for me to trust him. He’s very good at the game. But I’d not want to touch him with a barge pole.

Any stories or events you can talk about? It sounds interesting

> Any stories or events you can talk about? It sounds interesting reply

Paul Graham fired Sam Altman from YC on the spot for "loss of trust". Full details unknown.

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SpaceX didn’t start from scratch. Their initial designs were based on NASA designs. Stop perpetuating the “genius engineer” myth around Elon Musk.

I feel like Steve Jobs also fits this category if we are going to talk about people who aren't really worthy of genius title and used other people's accomplishments to reach their goals. We all know it as the engineers who made iPhone possible.

Someone far more deserving of the title, Dennis Ritchie, died a week after Jobs' stupidity caught up with him. So much attention to Jobs who didn't really deserve it, and so little to Dennis Ritchie who made such a profound impact on the tech world and society in general.

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Awfully familiar to the other South-African emerald mine inheritor tech mogul.

Please. Elon's track record to take tesla from concept car stage to current mass production levels and building SpaceX from scratch is hardly comparable to Altman's track record.

And don't forget StarLink that revolutionized satellite communications.

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An answer in the form of a question: why don't OpenAI executives want to talk about whether Sora was trained on Youtube content? (I should reiterate that I actually wrote "serious, possibly criminal")

Because of course it was trained on Yt data, but they gain nothing from admitting that openly.

They will gain a lot of lawsuit if they admit they trained on youtube dataset because not everyone gave consent.

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The best approach to circumventing the nondisclosure agreement is for the affected employees to get together, write out everything they want to say about OpenAI, train an LLM on that text, and then release it. Based on these companies' arguments that copyrighted material is not actually reproduced by these models, and that any seemingly-infringing use is the responsibility of the user of the model rather than those w…

No need for LLM, anonymous letter does the same thing

On first blush, this sounds like a good idea. Thinking deeper, the company is so small that it will be easy to identify the author.

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It's for the good of humanity, right? /s I wonder if Lex is going to ask Sam about it the next time they get together for a chat on YouTube?

I kinda like Lex, but he never asks any difficult questions. That’s probably why he gets all these fancy guests on his show.
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