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More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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What about "long COVID"? There are some studies suggesting sudden spikes in kids becoming diabetic after having COVID. These long term health impacts will take years to be known and fully understood. Getting COVID is to be avoided at all costs, IMO.

There's no avoiding it.

That's an unproductive, defeatist attitude.

With proper discipline, it is straightforward to avoid it.

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> It looked for a while there like this could be a thing that gets “done”—that we would get a good vaccine into enough people, then incidence would decline so far it just goes away... That didn’t happen. We’re stuck with it for a foreseeable future. Well, one can cry for the world that was, or one can get up and live in the world that is. Whats the magic number? There are places like New York that have 95% over 18 wi…

To be fair, many people had pointed out that unless we vaccinate the entire world, new variants would emerge, which may be better at evading the vaccine. That is exactly what happened with Omicron.

With a 6 month immunity window and animals reservoirs, you could simultaneously give every singe human the vaccine and it would still come back. You are misinformed that we ever had any chance of closing Pandora’s box.

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Vaccines don't have long term effects.

Tell that to all the poor bastards now living with myocarditis.

That's a short term effect (i.e. we already know about it), and one that actual covid is much more likely to give you.

Also, the problem with VAERS reports is the people may just have already had it - that's why side effects for medications sometimes list the original condition as a side effect.

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I don't want to discourage you but it appears to me like with this variant (and probably even more with further variants), it will be impossible to avoid infection whatever you do (and I mean, mitigation strategies will have probably no effect). Look at the numbers we're suddenly getting without anything changing in the landscape (actually, despite a very high number of vaccinations). It looks like the virus has beco…

I don't see why that would be true if you just wear an N95 (or equivalent) mask indoors, or whenever you're in close proximity to others. Eventually, the spike will subside. https://calmcovid.substack.com/p/youre-not-doomed-to-get-omi...

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We still don't know if the omicron variant leads to "long COVID".[1] We'll know some time in February. That has a big effect on what to do next. Omicron-specific vaccines are in test. Moderna's should be out in Fall 2022. Pfizer claims March 2022.[2] The next generation in vaccine technology is the US Army / Walter Reed Medical Center broad-spectrum vaccine. This should protect against all COVID and SARS variants.[3]…

> The next generation in vaccine technology is the US Army / Walter Reed Medical Center broad-spectrum vaccine. This should protect against all COVID and SARS variants.[3] That's in Phase I safety testing, with about 75 volunteers. If that works, the problem is solved. Sure, until the next variant. The problem of the spread was mostly solved by vaccines before Omicron, at least for people who got the vaccines. Then O…

>The problem of the spread was mostly solved by vaccines before Omicron

Nah it wasn't. Unless you expected people to get boosted ad infinitum, which was never going to happen.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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> The next generation in vaccine technology is the US Army / Walter Reed Medical Center broad-spectrum vaccine. This should protect against all COVID and SARS variants.[3] That's in Phase I safety testing, with about 75 volunteers. If that works, the problem is solved. Sure, until the next variant. The problem of the spread was mostly solved by vaccines before Omicron, at least for people who got the vaccines. Then O…

>The problem of the spread was mostly solved by vaccines before Omicron Nah it wasn't. Unless you expected people to get boosted ad infinitum, which was never going to happen.

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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...

How is it so hard for you people to understand that we shut down society because the health system is stressed at unforeseen levels? I mean just ask your fellow emergency workers how their life is right now.

Just ask my close emergency worker friends and family? They're mostly unwilling to get vaccinated, understand this more than yourself, and they think it's endemic and pointless to get the vaccine. They usually bring up the fact they all have MRSA in their noses and on all their surfaces all day long and they'll get over it. They've all had COVID. Immunocompromised people will continue to die from pnuemonia, flus, etc regardless of impositions from society.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

You've got your anecdotes, and I've got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers. There's a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.

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I don't want to discourage you but it appears to me like with this variant (and probably even more with further variants), it will be impossible to avoid infection whatever you do (and I mean, mitigation strategies will have probably no effect). Look at the numbers we're suddenly getting without anything changing in the landscape (actually, despite a very high number of vaccinations). It looks like the virus has beco…

I don't see why that would be true if you just wear an N95 (or equivalent) mask indoors, or whenever you're in close proximity to others. Eventually, the spike will subside. https://calmcovid.substack.com/p/youre-not-doomed-to-get-omi...

Vaxxed, wearing n95s inside and avoiding crowds outside, wfh, and not having any close personal contacts over the past few weeks, I just tested positive. Omicron is incredibly infectious and all my mitigation strategies from the past 2 years stopped working.

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I don't want to talk about vaccines anymore. Whatever study people have to cherry pick or whatever beliefs you may hold, whatever your stance is, most people have made the decision on whether or not to be vaccinated. What I wish we focused on instead, is the medical system as a whole. We've been hearing stories everyday about how hospitals are on the brink of collapse. Why, in 2 years of this pandemic, have we not de…

My wife is trying to become a nurse. Thanks to COVID screwing up her school schedule she's at least a year behind. She's currently working as a residential assistant at rather nice elderly care facility where they are short staffed. She makes about what she would make at a fast food restaurant despite working in a semi-skilled position(requires CNA credentials) and working with COVID positive residents. They are just…

Then salaries need to increase.
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