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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by leppr »

MichaelGroves wrote: post #667
smt88 wrote: post #341

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I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site, but let's not kid ourselves about PornHub. It was mostly pirated content with a lot of videos of people being harmed.

> I totally agree that OnlyFans is a legitimate and ethical site "IRL", abusive relationships can be hidden in plain site from people who think they know the couple well. How do you stand any chance of knowing there isn't an abusive pimp behind the camera of an onlyfans account? Ultimately you only have intuition and guesswork to go off of, but both are fallible. Even if the platform itself is trusted and does a good…

This is no different to buying any kind of service or good. How do you know that cheap editing job on fiverr is not made by an enslaved worker?

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by observer23 »

adamcharnock wrote: post #427
perardi wrote: post #207

Wow, you spend years thinking crypto is convoluted nonsense…and then something comes along that impacts a lot of your friends, and you start to change your mind. I have a fair number† of friends and acquaintances who have OnlyFans. Some for side income, some for a substantial portion of their livelihood. And to see that get taken away because the payment processors want them to fall in line…I guess I’m on the crypto…

A number of my friends and loved ones will be affected by this, and many more have been thrown under the payment processing bus before. And forgive me if this seems ranty, but it isn’t just payment processors, it seems to permeate so much that comes out of the USA. See the various App Store rules too. And this isn’t about fraud rates. Because why are the fraud rates high? It’s because the sex whole industry is pushed…

China allows online porn and their citizens have no trouble with Chinese payment processors accepting purchases for porn.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by TillE »

philwelch wrote: post #676
collegeburner wrote: post #521

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Exactly, you can't clean up the OF brand because its brand as it is commonly known is 18 to 30yr olds selling nudes. And this seems to be its big customer demographic. There is no significant "other brand" to split off. If it wants to start a Patreon competitor with the same backend fine, but that's a new brand. It's literally a meme among younger people: "oh yeah that OF charge it's a cooking class" or "yoga session…

Companies can be very self-deluded about what they are.

See, eg, Uber's nonsensical pursuit of self-driving vehicles. Like they thought their big value was being a taxi app (fairly trivial), and not the actual hard thing which is recruiting and managing a ton of drivers.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by joe_the_user »

slg wrote: post #673
redisman wrote: post #539

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Not at all. If someone told anyone I know they have a onlyfans, I can’t think of anyone who would assume anything other than porn

It is the same problem that Voat had. If you are are a platform that prioritizes minimal moderation in a market dominated by someone who doesn't, the primary reason to use your platform is because that content isn't allowed on the market leader. Voat only became "Reddit for white supremacists" because Reddit was pushing many of those users off their platform. Only Fans only became "Patreon for sex work" because Patre…

It is the same problem that Voat had. If you are are a platform that prioritizes minimal moderation in a market dominated by someone who doesn't, the primary reason to use your platform is because that content isn't allowed on the market leader.

This seems like an opportunity, not a problem. Since most platforms simply don't get traction at all, you have something. It's opportunity that involves problems (or "challenges") but you've gotten somewhere on the market chessboard. And most "growth hacks" present challenges.

That said, it's hard to believe that onlyfans wasn't aware they were effective a porn site. Maybe Voat was more naive since white supremacy doesn't monetize the way porn does but I'd be skeptical there too. The Internet has a zillion places for any population to go so there isn't a single "off-brand" that a undesirable population X is fated to go to.

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Post by ljm »

dvt wrote: post #560
skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

> This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. Strong disagree. They lined their coffers and now it's time to pivot. In fact, it's probably the perfect time to pivot. They are still relatively unknown, and their reputation hasn't been tarnished. Patreon is ripe for disruption. Pornography is not how you become a billion-dollar unicorn, which is I'm sure what they're eyeing (especiall…

If a top-notch sushi chef puts OnlyFans on their business card, I'm not going to expect them to be preparing fish on their page. They would be doing it on tiktok though.

OnlyFans is instagram but for porn. If they want to escape that, they're gonna have to rebrand.

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Post by gogopuppygogo »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #125
ramesh31 wrote: post #123

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It's not like they have a choice. Their business was only ever viable at the behest of their payment provider. The reason no one has made an OnlyFans before, and the reason why people have tried and failed, entirely comes down to this.

Oh god I can’t believe I’m going to say this. Crypto/Bitcoin, in keeping with the relationship the Internet and adult content have. Congrats Coinbase, Venmo, and others enabling censorship resistant crypto payments on your revenue bump.

Censorship resistant currencies are more like Monero…

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Post by doliveira »

svachalek wrote: post #669
biztos wrote: post #586

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It really seems weird to me that with all the countries that allow various forms of sex work, payment processing is still such a bottleneck. As I understand it, independent providers doing 100% legal work in their countries live in terror of their payments being cut off due to the factors mentioned above. Where is the CoinBase of legal erotica?

I wonder if crypto has finally found its "killer app". Pseudo privacy, no charge backs, permissionless.

That's what it was back in the Silk Road times, wasn't it? Hopefully it will go back to that

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Post by nkrisc »

wonderwonder wrote: post #533
skrtskrt wrote: post #94

This is going to be corporate suicide on a greater scale than Tumblr's policy. I say greater because OnlyFans is/was still on a massive upswing whereas Tumblr was 10 years past its peak already when the nails went in the coffin. Edit: I understand this is supposedly not their choice.

I honestly did not know they did anything besides porn. They have a really bad marketing department as I bet most people only know of them via porn (or I run in a slightly more degenerate circle).

Is it not a porn site? I thought it was a porn site.

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Post by Kye »

fred_is_fred wrote: post #222
tootie wrote: post #217

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OF is a creator platform at heart and not necessarily tied to sexually explicit content except by reputation. There is a likely a huge non-porn market for helping creators of all types monetize their content. The question will be if they can actually get people to completely change their mind about what the platform is for.

Yes there is a huge market for non-porn and it's all on Patreon.

And there's Ko-fi for people who do the things that go on Patreon and find Patreon lacking, but want a platform with name recognition. They even added memberships and Discord integration recently.
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