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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by tonfreed »

dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

My favourite is how it blocks me from doing anything because I use various cookie blockers. I hate recaptcha so much, because all I want is some goddamn privacy.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by ric2b »

segfaultbuserr wrote: post #510
cesarb wrote: post #302

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> Even Google has taken to occasionally popping up CAPTCHAs just so I can see search results! The most annoying one for me recently has been stackoverflow. The most basic use of stackoverflow (other than arriving through a web search) is to use its own search bar to search for something. Every time I do so, it asks for a captcha. It would make some sense to ask for a captcha when asking or answering a question, but w…

Search is restricted because it's an expensive operation and prone to abuse. This practice is not just found at Stack Exchange, now GitHub doesn't even display the full code search result to visitors. The only option is to log in (if you are already an established SE/GitHub user and doesn't mind the web tracking)...

Even if search is expensive you can just rate limit it, a captcha is a dumb solution.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by qwerty456127 »

arp242 wrote: post #261
qwerty456127 wrote: post #119

Nonsense. I've never been to America but never had a problem recognizing any object on a captcha (except some indistinguishable letters on letter-based captchas occasionally). Everything is obvious even if it looks somewhat different from its European counterpart. I don't know how much exactly is a nickel or a dime but it's obvious to me these are coins. Everybody I know (and most of them have never been to America)…

> I don't know how much exactly is a nickel or a dime but it's obvious to me these are coins. That's not all that helpful if you're asked to do calculations with them.

Whatever, I have never seen a captcha relying on such a skill.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by iso1631 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #577
wolco2 wrote: post #547

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In fairness if they asked that it would be exclude the human the way streetview maps works now

>> it would be exclude the human That is one way of running an captcha: set a task that is not possible for a human. Anyone who answers correctly must be a bot. "How many flowers in this field?" "Solve for X: 3567/134 = X" Anyone getting those correct in a reasonable time is probably not a human and so has failed the captcha.

"Solve for X: 3567/134 = X"

Would take me, a human, about 3 seconds to

1) highlight 3567/134

2) Press Alt-Escape

3) type "bc"

4) middleclick

5) Doubleclick answer

6) Middle click in answer box

26.61940298507462686567

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by DarkWiiPlayer »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #683
throwaway894345 wrote: post #523

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Moreover there are guns for lefties where the casing is ejected from the other side...

Ooh, do you know of any? I had a look, to fact check, but all I found was advice for lefties on using 'right-handed' guns. Not doubting, just curious.

P-90 ejects casings straight down, iirc (Not a gun person myself, btw. just internet-smart)

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by greenshackle2 »

dafoex wrote: post #678
greenshackle2 wrote: post #591

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I was genuinely stumped by this one: https://ibb.co/1bjZyxm Do any of the tiles count? If so, do the tiles that barely have just the edge of a "tire" count? Who knows?

I'd skip this, because it would tell the AI that this "bicycle looking thing" is not a bicycle. If they wanted a cycle lane, they'd ask for that. Then again, if they wanted a zebra crossing they wouldn't ask for a crosswalk, but here we are...

My goal is not to optimize google's AI training, it's to get access to the damn website. I think part of what it does is compare your answer with other people's, if the AI is not sure, so it's more like a Keynesian beauty contest where I'm trying to guess which tiles the average person would pick.

(And fail and then have to go through 5 more screens of this.)

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Post by funcDropShadow »

watwut wrote: post #574
funcDropShadow wrote: post #234

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Are you sure that English is defined by its usage in the United States of America? Or is it defined by the usage in, let's say, in England?

In the context where American used word or expression and talked to other Americans, yes absolutely. If we talked about English person speaking to Emglish, we would take English usage. But context was American speech and Eastern Europans who know America only from movies thinking they know all about it.

Here is an interesting idea, they might know it from their English lessons in school. Which might have taught British English and not American English. But who knows.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #695
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #683

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Ooh, do you know of any? I had a look, to fact check, but all I found was advice for lefties on using 'right-handed' guns. Not doubting, just curious.

P-90 ejects casings straight down, iirc (Not a gun person myself, btw. just internet-smart)

Yeah, I saw some handguns that seemed to eject directly upwards. I guess you get burnt hands.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by webmobdev »

bluGill wrote: post #564
webmobdev wrote: post #317

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Many carrier plans do offer local SMS free. Why in the world would a carrier pay for Apple's INTERNATIONAL iMessage / Facetime activation SMS?

Because SMS is essentially free. Companies exist to make money, but international phone fees ought to be a relic of the past. That they are not is a problem that we would all be better off getting to the bottom of and solving.

> Because SMS is essentially free.

What a ridiculous argument trying to blame another corporate to hide Apple's folly. By that logic, the same argument applies to Apple too - Installing apps used to be free before Apple decided to charge developers for it, and make all apps costliers for all us.

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Post by silvestrov »

technofiend wrote: post #504
silvestrov wrote: post #478

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and 12-hour clocks. I can never remember if "am" morning or afternoon. Why is 12am before 1am? Makes no sense at all.

Yeah you're not wrong, but AM is ante meridiem and PM is post meridiem where meridiem is mid day. I'm not sure if that really helps?

trouble is you easily remember it as "after" and "pre" midday.
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