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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by gcatalfamo »

webmobdev wrote: post #265
nottorp wrote: post #195

Here's a different but similar whine. Probably worth its own blog post except I don't blog. Dear Apple, can you test your products outside California? I just left my laptop for 10 minutes on the balcony because I had to get a delivery. Because I'm not in California, the temperature on said balcony is 3 Celsius. Yes, I'm not american and I don't understand Fahrenheit. Guess what, when I came back the laptop was shutdo…

Yeah, this is a pain with Apple - instead of trying to understand the business and consumer culture of the particular country, Apple tries to impose US business model everywhere. Some of the things I have observed in India: - Apple tried to entice and sell iPhones through the carrier, where as Indians largely have a cultural apathy to buying expensive phones on loan / credit and locked to a network. - Apple still doe…

True, but I would argue this is not a problem only Apple seems to have.

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Post by dmurray »

andai wrote: post #163
grishka wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Зебра (zebra) in Russian too, especially if you're referring to the road markings themselves. I find recaptchas downright humiliating. I think twice before completing one — is whatever it grants access to worth it?

If you use a browser which blocks fingerprinting, CAPTCHA may fail you 3-4 times even if you give correct answers. CAPTCHA was giving me anger management issues last few weeks until I realized I can just open same URL in another browser and then most of the time it doesn't even ask for CAPTCHA because the fingerprinting is so accurate it knows who I am (or it lets me in after the first round).

That's the absolute best outcome for Google. Not that they get a couple more data points for self-driving cars, or make the website owner happy they protected the site from bots, but that you switched from Firefox to Chrome.

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Post by pueblito »

StavrosK wrote: post #239
OJFord wrote: post #221

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I don't think 'crosswalks' require road traffic give way to pedestrians? Don't they just mark where crossing the road is not 'jaywalking'?

Hmm, I thought they did, but now that you mention it I realize I'm not sure. In the UK they do, but "crosswalk" refers to the US one. Can any US people clarify?

In Colorado, pedestrians have right of way regardless of where they cross. Bikes and horses are treated as vehicles and entitled to the entire lane if they want. If the road is one lane, then uphill has right of way.

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Post by romanoderoma »

apexalpha wrote: post #168
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #14

To add some balance, they should include "identify all the roundabouts" so that folk from the USA are equally disadvantaged.

"Identify which of the following windows can tilt and turn."

"Identify which country calls them vasistas because Germans used to ask "was ist das?" from a smaller aperture on the door before opening the actual door"

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Post by ilikeerp »

bluGill wrote: post #303
webmobdev wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a pain with Apple - instead of trying to understand the business and consumer culture of the particular country, Apple tries to impose US business model everywhere. Some of the things I have observed in India: - Apple tried to entice and sell iPhones through the carrier, where as Indians largely have a cultural apathy to buying expensive phones on loan / credit and locked to a network. - Apple still doe…

You should ask your carrier why they are charging for SMS. There is no reason to do that in 2020. Though you are right Apple needs to deal with the reality of their customers.

Wow - what a genious.

Plenty of places in the world charge for SMS. Ask all you want, doesn't mean things will change.

MY wife just applied for a mortgage in her home country, they won't approve it until they have a picture of her on file.. some places just do things differently hence the whole 'please test outside of the US' point of this post which appears to have gone over your head.

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

nottorp wrote: post #304
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #241

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I don’t think you’re being entirely reasonable here. If you need a laptop that works at 3°C, don’t buy one that states it needs 10°C. If you just didn’t know, you’re presumably still in the laptop’s return window. Fwiw, I’m in New York, and I really do think this is a reasonable operating temperature for a laptop.

I don't need a laptop that works at 3 Celsius. I need a laptop that won't completely shut down if temporarily exposed to 3 Celsius.

Well, it didn’t break or anything, it just had to warm up, right? Was the battery discharged?

I am a little surprised it didn’t hibernate. That could potentially be a software issue.

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Post by webmobdev »

bluGill wrote: post #303
webmobdev wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a pain with Apple - instead of trying to understand the business and consumer culture of the particular country, Apple tries to impose US business model everywhere. Some of the things I have observed in India: - Apple tried to entice and sell iPhones through the carrier, where as Indians largely have a cultural apathy to buying expensive phones on loan / credit and locked to a network. - Apple still doe…

You should ask your carrier why they are charging for SMS. There is no reason to do that in 2020. Though you are right Apple needs to deal with the reality of their customers.

Many carrier plans do offer local SMS free. Why in the world would a carrier pay for Apple's INTERNATIONAL iMessage / Facetime activation SMS?

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Post by School-Cotton »

nottorp wrote: post #195

Here's a different but similar whine. Probably worth its own blog post except I don't blog. Dear Apple, can you test your products outside California? I just left my laptop for 10 minutes on the balcony because I had to get a delivery. Because I'm not in California, the temperature on said balcony is 3 Celsius. Yes, I'm not american and I don't understand Fahrenheit. Guess what, when I came back the laptop was shutdo…

Example from NYC: my iPhone used to constantly give me nag messages to turn on “driving mode” when in my car. I don’t have a car; it assumed I was driving while I was actually on the subway. Apparently, Californians think if you are moving a certain speed, you must be driving.

Luckily, that has been fixed.

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Post by webmobdev »

viraptor wrote: post #308
webmobdev wrote: post #265

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Yeah, this is a pain with Apple - instead of trying to understand the business and consumer culture of the particular country, Apple tries to impose US business model everywhere. Some of the things I have observed in India: - Apple tried to entice and sell iPhones through the carrier, where as Indians largely have a cultural apathy to buying expensive phones on loan / credit and locked to a network. - Apple still doe…

> Why would indian carriers absorb the cost of an international SMS Because SMS pricing is a scam and in practice is a rounding error to handle all of those activation messages. Both countries should just exclude that number from billing. This is similar to how European carriers suddenly started competing on free international calls/data once EU enforced better rules. We've been told for decades it's really expensive…

> Because SMS pricing is a scam

Everything corporates do can be called a "scam". To me, it is a "scam" that a trillion dollar company like Apple avoids putting up activation servers in India because it is more profitable to not do so and just make the indian user pay an international SMS everytime.

It is also a "scam" to me that Apple insists that I can only install everything from the App Store, where as apps would actually be cheaper for all of us if Apple didn't take a cut from the developer. (And I can go on ... but we have to live with the reality of the world don't we - Apple isn't going to give up control over their App Store just as carriers will keep trying to monetise on SMS or RCS.)

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Post by chithanh »

nottorp wrote: post #304
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think you’re being entirely reasonable here. If you need a laptop that works at 3°C, don’t buy one that states it needs 10°C. If you just didn’t know, you’re presumably still in the laptop’s return window. Fwiw, I’m in New York, and I really do think this is a reasonable operating temperature for a laptop.

I don't need a laptop that works at 3 Celsius. I need a laptop that won't completely shut down if temporarily exposed to 3 Celsius.

So you need a laptop whose operating range includes 3°C. How long it is exposed to 3°C doesn't matter because components can already take damage from the very moment they are cooled below the operating range.
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