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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

> on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock) I think it's amazing you're putting up with devices that work against you. If my phone would force me to watch ads I would get a new phone tomorrow.

newpipe has the nicest youtube interface and doesn't show ads.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I went the extra mile and create a random, unique email address for every single service I sign up for, so I know precisely who sells my data to spammers if I ever get any. All the unique addresses redirect to a central one for ease of access.

Often do that as well, but then: What’s the point. Company X leaked my mail, so what? Not much that one can do about it. Now I often group services, e.g. car rentals with car@ and food delivery services with pizza@ It’s awesome for filtering and sorting emails though.

You can sometimes remedy the problem. I went through a few aliases with Amazon, and finally found the secret option to keep my email private. (By default, they post it on reviews or something stupid.)

It's especially good for apartment searches and job hunting. Companies that try to link buyer and seller are naturally spammy, so you create a new one for each contact. Then when you find one, you delete the others.

It's also makes it dead easy to filter all that information into folders, so you have a neat record of all your interactions with the various companies you're dealing with.

Most importantly: once you find a job / landlord / whatever, you really want a reliable line of communication. This way, your address with them never changes, but all the spam goes into the bit bucket.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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I have YouTube Premium, so this doesn't affect me as a YouTube viewer. However, this is the sort of foundational service change that you simply don't do ten years into a lucrative partner program without a good reason. "It's 2020 and our investors are hungry for growth" is not a good enough reason, IMO. Any good business needs to keep it's goals aligned with it's customers or it will stop being a good business and pe…

> Hell, if that's already financially untenable, you should at least still allow YouTube Partners - i.e. the people whose financial incentives are most aligned with monetization anyway - deliberately demonetize their own videos. Because, again, they are your customers and that was the deal they signed on to.

My understanding is this is exactly what they're doing. Another poster in these comments reached out to YouTube support who confirmed ads will not be placed on partnered videos who have declined to show ads. The policy is effective for non-partnered videos.

Admittedly this is second hand information.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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This sounds like a pretty straightforward cause & effect here. Creators went for direct monetization outside of youtube instead of ads, and youtube responded by keeping their net income the same by just showing ads anyway. > But at the same time, there are people who have so heavily invested into the YouTube ecosystem with certain expectations for a very long time, and pretty much have their entire business on there,…

"Creators" went for direct monetisation because de-monetisation can happen on youtube for almost any arbitrary reason and there is almost no way to contact a human (as far as I am aware) to remedy such a situation.

So how does this work for content that they decide to demonetize? Does Google just run ads and take the money now?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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post #96

I hope they let creators decide where the ads go. Because otherwise, this is going to destroy ASMR videos. I can see it now. Person with insomnia listening to someone softly picking a mic with a q-tip about to drift off when all of a sudden HI LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT CAR INSURANCE. From looking casually into the community, those channels have a lot of videos with millions and sometimes tens of millions of views. All of…

It drives me bananas that the ads are always so much louder than the content. There's a law against that for broadcast television, but it doesn't apply to internet content. (It may not apply to cable/netflix either? I dunno.)

I don't watch youtube on my phone anymore. IMHO this is profoundly bad for Google. The last time I bought a phone, having a bigger screen was one of the considerations. I don't remember how much it was, but I spent like $800 on it. Not anymore. My last phone was $350. I use for a lot less stuff. Mostly just texting and discord. So Google has lost out twice- once for just less watching of youtube, but also less mobile device usage, which likely earns Google quite a bit more from that the ads.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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There's the risk that Google will ban your account as it has done previously to some users, losing access and data hosted in their ecosystem (Gmail, Docs...), that's the thing that scares me the most. But yeah, Vanced (and the new YT Music) is amazing.

I guess the solution here is to not use your main Google account with youtube vanced?

I looked this up. This seems to be fear mongering. There are no confirmed cases of stuff like this happening. Too lazy to dig up the links, but go search for yourself. (Reports in YTVanced reddit and NewPipe github)

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

#698
I would also like to add that Youtube have relatively recently removed OPML output (which can be used for an RSS feed). This is after they also removed emails for the channels you press the "bell icon". If they do not bring back the RSS feed I'm leaving. I do not want to spend time on their dark-pattern user interface wasting time.

Between this and not paying creators because of some "glitch", showing ads on videos that the creator cannot get paid for (if that be because they don't have "enough" followers or because they got the yellow checkmark), the bullshit preferential treatment of news agencies I could not care less about, becoming the arbiter of truth with "fact checking", randomly deleting channels, zero customer feedback or recourse with a human - the list goes on.

These days, if I want to watch somebody like EEVBlog I can just go to BitChute or Library. Content creators and users are fed up.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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> I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. That just comes off as entitled. Youtube is providing free bandwidth, hosting, and advertising for his patreon.

> That just comes off as entitled. Youtube is providing free bandwidth, hosting, and advertising for his patreon. Youtube has been promoting that you can do that since 2008 - https://techcrunch.com/2008/03/12/youtube-the-platform/ - so maybe "entitled" isn't the word. It's expected because the capability has been promoted. However, in the same article you'll note this little tidbit: In general if a video is uploaded…

The article seems pretty upfront that ads may be played on videos uploaded to YouTube.

“Free” means he doesn’t need to pay for hosting, and he doesn’t.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Where? Most place seem to get quite expensive once you add a Object Storage on top.

Hetzner $50+ servers have 1gbps uplink with unmetered BW.

That means the link can support less than 100 viewers at once on a video with 10 Mbps bitrate. Often a large portion of views comes in the first few days of a video being posted. You could probably handle the spike of views from a video that receives a couple of thousand views total (maybe even 10k), but more than that seems difficult.

Also, is Hetzner actually unmetered or do they claim they are with an asterisk?

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